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IN STOCK NOW ZOTAC 470 & 480 GRAPHICS CARDS
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Brand Loyalty is everywhere and I can totally understand brand Loyalty.
I have used Nvida cards for years and not once have they let me down.
I guess its the same with certain ATI users, they basically have used that brand for years and never had prolems and from that experience they gain Brand loyalty
Brand Loyalty is everywhere not just in PC components
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mrix
spot-on.,im a nvidia fan and been with them over 10 year now not a single problem,i just remember once i bought an ati card and had so much problems with specialy driver.,i dont care nvidia card r expencive or running hot or uses to much volt ,i still go with them,becouse they always deliver what i need.
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You had an ati card once but can not remember when and what card. It must have been ages ago then. You probably had an ati card when they did have problems with there drivers and were probably even slower than nvidia back then also. Things with ati have came on a lot since they released the 9700 pro which was a wonder card. The 5 series cards have seen a lot of nv fanboy's who admit they are fanboys jump over to ati. For the most part they are really surprised at how good ati cards are because they believed in the nvidia logo. If somebody gave you an ati card with an nv logo on it and installed it into your machine, then let you game on it you would not really know the difference. Price/performance is really where its at not a logo.
Not entirely true... while its a personal thing I notice the difference in filtering quality in motion immediatly, especially the difference between 4x AA... and once I start tweaking applications, etc. to suit my preferences again I'm gonna notice a huge difference, never mind the higher probability of issues with my multi-display 120Hz setup.
there is a slight difference in image quality not that you get chance to look at it...
I won't be buying ethoir time I get the money the HD6XXX most likely will be out or gave up gaming totally I mean there is only a few games worth bothering with, failing that there is the older games.
I won't be buying ethoir time I get the money the HD6XXX most likely will be out or gave up gaming totally I mean there is only a few games worth bothering with, failing that there is the older games.
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I'm gonna be ordering a 5850 maybe even tonight, even though ATI linux drivers are aweful lol.
When is the next series of GPU's out?
When is the next series of GPU's out?
And may god bless you for that. I feel better knowing we have people like you safeguarding the industry future for the rest of us
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I meant sit him down to a game not tweak every little setting on the nv or ati control panels lol. If you just put on a game with 4 x aa at full setting at 1920x1200 and ran the game there is not gonna be much difference unless you magnify things. I know you said you notice a bit but i don't think many people will. My mate used to have nvidia a lot and i have used more ati cards over the years but when playing on his machine there was no real difference in visual quality to my eyes.
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I have never been able to tell visual differences between cards.
My history:
Voodoo 3DFX > Geforce MX 440 > 9800pro > 7600GT > 8800GT > 4870 > 9800GTX > GTX260 > 2 x 5770 > GTX260 > 5850? Maybe
My history:
Voodoo 3DFX > Geforce MX 440 > 9800pro > 7600GT > 8800GT > 4870 > 9800GTX > GTX260 > 2 x 5770 > GTX260 > 5850? Maybe
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Correction - It's where its at FOR YOU.
As I have said time and again, not everyone is as concerned with bang for buck as you or certain others are. Brand loyalty is a real and valid thing (to a degree). I have zero issues with NV cards and as long as the performance is up there, I don't mind paying a bit more for piece of mind as well as solid drivers that have not let me down. It is my preference, who are you to state that is not a valid reason to purchase a card?
I have no issue whatsoever with ATI and should NV produce a card that isn't even in the ballpark, performance-wise then I shall certainly look at ATI in the future.
I think part of the reason I notice the difference in AA between nVidia/ATI isn't just that they have different selective optimizations, ATI tends to have a brighter more vibrant color (which makes the edges on color contrast stick out more) whereas nVidia has a darker but slightly cleaner cut look.
Yea because £122 is petty change to everyone
I said -if(which does not mean everyone)you can afford £478 for a card then you can probably manage £600
It must be petty change to some, because the 480's are hard to get anywhere and the 5970 toxic will be just as hard to get a hold of when it comes out.
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Where its at usually means what the majority would go for. I think the majority of informed people would go for price/performance over brand loyalty so my statement still stands.
Southern Islands is supposedly coming at the very end of the year, Nvidia should be releasing the GTX460 (heavily salvaged Fermi, ala 5830) & GF104 derivatives at computex in a couple of months.
Southern Islands is ATI's plan B because of the lack of 32nm they were designing Northern Islands for (NI is the real next gen architecture). SI is a hybrid of Cypress with some elements from NI mixed in. Should have a decent performance boost over 5850/5870 but from reading the Beyond3D and SemiAccurate forums nobody is expecting anything earth shattering.
GF104 derivatives will be the GTS450, 440 etc.. There is some speculation that these are actually not strictly Fermi based designs, and that much of the compute hardware has been removed, meaning they could be potentially pretty decent mid-range cards for gaming (albeit not as fast as the 470/480 obviously). They might clock well if this is true, fingers crossed for a new 8800GT anyway
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Southern Islands is supposedly coming at the very end of the year, Nvidia should be releasing the GTX460 (heavily salvaged Fermi, ala 5830) & GF104 derivatives at computex in a couple of months.
Southern Islands is ATI's plan B because of the lack of 32nm they were designing Northern Islands for (NI is the real next gen architecture). SI is a hybrid of Cypress with some elements from NI mixed in. Should have a decent performance boost over 5850/5870 but from reading the Beyond3D and SemiAccurate forums nobody is expecting anything earth shattering.
GF104 derivatives will be the GTS450, 440 etc.. There is some speculation that these are actually not strictly Fermi based designs, and that much of the compute hardware has been removed, meaning they could be potentially pretty decent mid-range cards for gaming (albeit not as fast as the 470/480 obviously). They might clock well if this is true, fingers crossed for a new 8800GT anyway
SI was originally supposed to be ultra economical low/mid range parts so its a bit of a shift...
Not sure where rumours of the lower end 400 series not being "strictly" GF100 based designs come from as they are false, the "compute" hardware is intrinsic to the core you can't just strip it away and they don't have the luxury of being able to strip out the SMs and replace with 200 series jobbies. We might see a new "8800GT" tho as dropping back the SPs to 320 or so gives massive headroom for clockspeed which might outweight the reduction in SPs - it would suffer a bit at higher res tho, while giving very competitive performance at 1680x type resolutions.
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Not sure i follow you, i haven't seen anything about 200 series SM's or anything like that. Just the removing of large amounts of compute centric logic from Fermi that has no use in gaming/mid-range cards. IE: DP, cache, ECC.
eidt: Don't forget that Fermi was never intended to be used in the desktop line-up in the first place, so GF104 may be even related to the previous desktop line they were working on before that. We'll have to wait and see.
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For the sake of all of us, fans of one brand and people like me that just buy whats best at the time, lets hope Nvidia get some product out of TSMC.
I fondly remember the fierce competition with the 4870/4890 and GTX 260/275/285. Prices back then were dropping about £20 a week. Bring back the competition on prices.
I fondly remember the fierce competition with the 4870/4890 and GTX 260/275/285. Prices back then were dropping about £20 a week. Bring back the competition on prices.
with respect ,i dont care i still go with nvidia.
And may god bless you for that. I feel better knowing we have people like you safeguarding the industry future for the rest of us
i dont belive in god
DP and cache has already been cutback, changes were made with ECC, etc. so they could get the clocks up on the gaming parts (and to encourage people to buy the tesla, etc. cards for professional use) they can't cut them back much more without compromising gaming performance.