Inception - July 16th

[THMRK]

Or you could also say failing to expand the characters leaves them much closer to the way a person might be presented in a dream? I've never dreamt about someones backstory or even their motivation, they just are.

I agree the discussion would still be happening even if there was character development beyond Cobb, although at that point we might be much closer to an accepted answer vs a crackpot theory.

As I said, I had considered that but I just see it as a flaw in Nolan's writing. I'm not willing to let him off that easily is my point, basically, and there's enough evidence within the film to point otherwise.

I do think the film is probably Cobb dreaming, right enough, but even using the "it's a dream argument" still doesn't overcome some of the other flaws within the film.

I also thought it was a good film, but not his best.

 

[wedgie]

I think we're probably quite close in our view on the film, the main difference being I never made that connection as one of the reasons I didn't like it as much as some. But such is the nature of opinions, would be just as impossible for nobody to have one as it would for us all to agree.

I still think you're wrong............ as I'm sure you think the same of me .

 

[THMRK]

Haha, it's okay. I do still think you're wrong too, but I've just been revising for my film exam so I decided to put some of that knowledge to the test.

I guess I just think that he should be held to a higher standard of quality given his other films, and I refuse to let him away with that. It's the same sort of thing that film academics use to explain away flaws in Hitchcock's work and that really bugs me.

 

[iamtheoneneo]

what would you consider his best? memento?
because its certainly not batman.

 

[THMRK]

Definitely Memento. In my top 5 favourite films ever.

 

[IceBus]

Just watched this. Wow. Reminded me a lot of the first time I saw the Matrix. Awesome awesome movie.

 

[EddScott]

Couple of questions

Why was Saito old and Cobb wasn't?

If they all wake up on the plane and Cobb doesn't, why don't they just push him over?

 

[Antar Bolaeisk]

Couple of questions

Why was Saito old and Cobb wasn't?

If they all wake up on the plane and Cobb doesn't, why don't they just push him over?

They couldn't just push him over because he was down too many layers, this is why they needed the cascaded kicks to get everyone back.

Saito would have been old because he was in limbo a lot longer than Cobb, though not long enough to have aged so drastically if we were to go by Nolan's rules.

 

[EddScott]

They couldn't just push him over because he was down too many layers, this is why they needed the cascaded kicks to get everyone back.

S'pose so. Although I thought when they were talking about the custom drugs the asian dude said he kept the inner ear sensation active so they could wake from a kick - I didn't think it mentioned it wouldn't work further down the layers.

 

[SB118]

Finally got to see this today, so glad i avoided this thread until i'd seen it!

Good movie, not a clue what all the mumbo jumbo on the rest of this page is going on about though!

 

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3) If you're going to make a film about dreams, you have a chance to make a film that's beautiful, surreal, and mind bendingly weird (not just mind bendingly convoluted).

'The Fall'

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[gord]

A thoroughly entertaining film, tamed slightly by the unavoidable hype. The execution was fantastic. A simple enough concept, not entirely original but the application to the screen with their tweaks made it great.

Some predictability unfortunately, especially the ending. It's always the way with a cyclical storyline. I'd rather they hadn't done that.

Great acting from the ones that mattered. The girl from Juno didn't do it for me.

Special mention goes to the corridor scene. An utterly incredible section of film executed perfectly.

Saw Shutter Island last week though and think I enjoyed that more. It wasn't entirely predictable and the ending wasn't a happy ever after.

 

[HangTime]

Watched this the other day and wasn't particularly impressed considering the film's reputation (#13 on IMDB), although unlike my wife I did make it through to the end. Some thoughts:

-For me it doesn't get off to the best of starts, in terms of helping the viewer understand what is going on. The general concept (influencing people's dream state) was simple enough but considering the length of the film it felt like they just dived into it a bit quickly. I'd have liked some sort of synopsis about how it developed over time i.e. history of how people started using it as a technique (Michael Caine's character would have been a good way of building this in)
-The gunfight scenes in the snow towards the end all felt a bit unnecessary as if they were just put into the film to give it a bit more action and pacing.
-Didn't feel like I had enough background into Cobb's character (or in fact any character) in terms of his life as a thief. Some might argue that would be irrelevant to the film concept but I think perhaps that made it harder for me to empathasise with the characters. I didn't really care what happened to them other than feeling a bit sorry for the target of the heist.

 

[Jono]

I really like it, but I didn't "get it" until watching it for a second time. I think you have to be somewhat alert and paying attention. I wasn't.