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Incredible Performance from On Board APU.

£96 is a brilliant price though...with the clocking ability these seem to have it's outstanding value for a budget machine. If Piledriver is similarly agressive it could really shake Intel's tree. I'd like to see some full in-depth reviews on all aspects of the 5800k but AMD might have played a blinder here...and it'll be great news for the consumer if that's true. I've been putting off that upgrade for a long time and that E2200 Core2Duo of mine is showing it's age.
 
Might force Intel to unlock the dual cores.
Only logical thing I can see them doing to combat Vishera's quad core option (Not that I think it'll be much more than a high clocking Phenom II, but that's certainly not to be sniffed at if the pricing is right)
Furthermore, could make the Vishera Octo Core quite worthwhile for someone who wants both the ability to game without a bottleneck and have highly threaded capability.
 
whats the point of FM2 ATX boards? REALLY! they are just wasting everyone's time. Where are the ITX boards that have been made/released/shown? I've got money burning a hole in my wallet i want to drop on a really smart htpc i can game on. i need itx, hdmi and normal ddr3 slots (be careful as some of the fm2 itx boards have so-dimm slots). well looks like i'll be earning a few pence of interest if im lucky.
 
sexyhyde said:
whats the point of FM2 ATX boards? REALLY! they are just wasting everyone's time. Where are the ITX boards that have been made/released/shown? I've got money burning a hole in my wallet i want to drop on a really smart htpc i can game on. i need itx, hdmi and normal ddr3 slots (be careful as some of the fm2 itx boards have so-dimm slots). well looks like i'll be earning a few pence of interest if im lucky.
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AMD have a problem recognising their market at times it seems :p
 
yeah all these mobo manufacturers pumping out ATX boards need an executive or two culling. It really is unbelievable that not one mobo manufacturer had the insight to have an itx board ready or almost-ready for launch.
 
sexyhyde said:
yeah all these mobo manufacturers pumping out ATX boards need an executive or two culling. It really is unbelievable that not one mobo manufacturer had the insight to have an itx board ready or almost-ready for launch.
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Plus it also seems the 65W TDP A10-5700 is not available in retail yet!! These have been available in pre-built desktops for months.

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For people using a media pc through they're TV and having occasional spells at gaming all that's required is that it can play 1920x1080 at reasonable framerates (anything over 50-60 fps is a waste because TV's won't refresh quick enough. If they want to turn the eyecandy up then a discrete graphics card is a low cost option with Trinity.

And for those on a budget looking for something that'll be fun to clock then Trinity looks like a chip that'll get some decent performance gains on both CPU and GPU when clocked with a half decent cooler. And it could be a boon for budget builders.
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Problem is the 7660D CAN'T handle gaming at 1920 res, considering it is only around on par with a GT440. People with a tight budget should look at 2nd hand for graphic anyway...and if people want to game at 1920 res, they'd be better off getting a Intel Pentium G6xx/G8xx and a 2nd hand 5770 or something (which add up to not costing much more (if at all) than the A-10 chip with its 7660D) and would get much more playable frame rate. The chip only works in the ideal world of without 2nd hand market...but with that said, these chips should do very nicely for laptops etc.
 
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Marine-RX179 said:
Problem is the 7660D CAN'T handle gaming at 1920 res, considering it is only around on par with a GT440. People with a tight budget should look at 2nd hand for graphic anyway...and if people want to game at 1920 res, they'd be better off getting a Intel Pentium G6xx/G8xx and a 2nd hand 5770 or something (which add up to not costing much more (if at all) than the A-10 chip with its 7660D) and would get much more playable frame rate. The chip only works in the ideal world of without 2nd hand market...but with that said, these chips should do very nicely for laptops etc.
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So basically you are saying people should not use OcUK and buy second hand instead.

Perhaps you should tell Gibbo who works for OcUK not to bother.
 
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it does play some games at 1080. and it plays nearly all new games at 720/768 and most of them will play at a higher res too. so your looking at a htpc that will play games like a ps3/360 or better. yes ipc and single thread aint great but its improved to ivy pentium speed. multi threaded scenarios see trinity in the i3/i5 speed space and graphically it is in the low-mid discrete graphics range. plus you have the graphics bump of dual graphics for not much extra cash in the future and the fm2 board will be used in the next phase of APU's.
 
CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
So basically you are saying people should not use OcUK and buy second hand instead.

Perhaps you should tell Gibbo who works for OcUK not to bother.
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You missed the part I said about getting the G6xx/G8xx CPU? I was merely pointing out an example of getting more gaming performance for the same money.

The way you put it, may be whenever OcUK have one of the "great performing 6/8 cores FX gaming systems" deals on, we should recommend people to buy it huh? I was merely analysing the information, and the fact is the 7660D ISN'T good enough for gaming at 1920 res. Even if people not considering 2nd hand graphic card, they'd better off getting a new 7750 as minimum to pair with a Intel Pentium G6xx/G8xx CPU the with a onboard graphic that's stucked at the odd spot "ok performance" for 1680 res, when high number of the targeted consumers of this product is most likely to be people that would be using it as HTPC to watch movies and game on their 1920 res TV.
 
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You missed the part I said about getting the G6xx/G8xx CPU? I was merely pointing out an example of getting more gaming performance for the same money.

The way you put it, may be whenever OcUK have one of the "great performing 6/8 cores FX gaming systems" deals on, we should recommend people to buy it huh? I was merely analysing the information, and the fact is the 7660D ISN'T good enough for gaming at 1920 res. Even if people not considering 2nd hand graphic card, they'd better off getting a new 7750 as minimum to pair with a Intel Pentium G6xx/G8xx CPU the with a onboard graphic that's stucked at the odd spot "ok performance" for 1680 res, when high number of the targeted consumers of this product is most likely to be people that would be using it as HTPC to watch movies and game on their 1920 res TV.
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I can manage 1920 resolution with a 4670 card and an E2200 Core2Duo and it's playable in most games. I think it's safe to say the Trinity surpasses that and a clocked 5800k with decently fast ram should perform more than well.
 
elroberto said:
I can manage 1920 resolution with a 4670 card and an E2200 Core2Duo and it's playable in most games. I think it's safe to say the Trinity surpasses that and a clocked 5800k with decently fast ram should perform more than well.
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I guess you have much better tolerance on what frame rate you consider playable than most people then...
 
Marine-RX179 said:
I guess you have much better tolerance on what frame rate you consider playable than most people then...
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I would imagine my expectations are the same as most moderate users. I've been playing Just Cause 2 a lot lately and 1 or two moments aside haven't experienced much slowdown. In the benchmarks it gives poor figures but that's not translated into actual gameplay. And that's who Trinity is targeted at. Moderate users. Anyone who spends £150= on a CPU, £100+ ona Graphics card, etc. is not a moderate user. For an all singing all dancing budget platform Trinity is an excellent package...and has been priced brilliantly. People will game at 1920 using a 5800k quite happily. And if they hanker for a bit more eyecandy a discrete 6670 isn't going to break the bank.

Now if only the manufacturers can hurry up and ship the motherboards out then many people here will I'm sure be happy to share their results. Will be interesting to see just how far they can be pushed in both CPU and GPU terms under decent cooling.
 
Marine-RX179 said:
You missed the part I said about getting the G6xx/G8xx CPU? I was merely pointing out an example of getting more gaming performance for the same money.

The way you put it, may be whenever OcUK have one of the "great performing 6/8 cores FX gaming systems" deals on, we should recommend people to buy it huh? I was merely analysing the information, and the fact is the 7660D ISN'T good enough for gaming at 1920 res. Even if people not considering 2nd hand graphic card, they'd better off getting a new 7750 as minimum to pair with a Intel Pentium G6xx/G8xx CPU the with a onboard graphic that's stucked at the odd spot "ok performance" for 1680 res, when high number of the targeted consumers of this product is most likely to be people that would be using it as HTPC to watch movies and game on their 1920 res TV.
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So would you buy an XFX graphics card??
 
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