Indonesia Executions
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Drink Drive Deaths in UK 2013 was 290
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-23529736
Deaths due to Heroin, Methadone, Morphine,Cocaine and Amphetamines total over 1000 for the same year (see table 6a for breakdown per substance)
http://www.ons.gov.uk/ons/publications/re-reference-tables.html?edition=tcm:77-375474
If you add drug related crime deaths to that I think you will find total deaths from or directly related to drugs will far exceed drink drive killings.
The other interesting stat on table 6a is the fact that 62 people died from Helium poisoning in 2013 in the UK !!! WTF
The other interesting stat on table 6a is the fact that 62 people died from Helium poisoning in 2013 in the UK !!! WTF
It's a big thing these days apparantly, also laughing gas (Nitrous Oxide?). There was a story the other day where the cleaners at Glastonbury had to clear up around 2 tons of empty gas canisters from this kind of abuse - http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-e...onbury-music-festival-this-year-10210746.html
Just no.
The other interesting stat on table 6a is the fact that 62 people died from Helium poisoning in 2013 in the UK !!! WTF
You can die in two ways I believe - first is if you inhale Helium in its compressed form directly from the pressurised canister, can't remember why this kills you - think it's something to do with forming bubbles in your blood. The other way is that you can't actually breathe Helium, when you inhale it just sits there in your lungs not doing anything because it's inert - so if you aren't careful you suffocate yourself.
So if you take away the illegality and regulate, those numbers will dramatically reduce no?
Edit : That's a very interesting read with some very surprising figures . Thanks for posting.
Edit 2 : Alcohol kills more teenagers than all other drugs combined. It is a factor in the three leading causes of death among 15- to 24-year-olds: accidents, homicides and suicides.
Taken from :http://www.drugfreeworld.org/drugfacts/alcohol/international-statistics.html
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^^ Spot another dope smoker
Execution for something more illegal than tobacco and alcohol
Methadone is regulated and still kills people. Alcohol is regulated and still kills a lot of people. Tobacco is regulated and kills loads of people.
I don't get where this assertion comes from that legalising something somehow makes it safe and gets rid of any problems to do with it.
Look at just how much crime is associated with drunken behaviour!
Are you suggesting we ban alcohol or make it fair and legalise drugs?
I think you can gather the killing point from my post!
Regulation makes it safer with less crime, i suggest you read the documents provided in my original and the quoted post.
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^^ Spot another dope smoker
Execution for something more illegal than tobacco and alcohol
Wrong, and I think that punishments should be administered according to severity and harm caused. He would have caused extremely low amounts; in no way proportionate to a death sentence however you look at it.
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Drink Drive Deaths in UK 2013 was 290
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-23529736
Deaths due to Heroin, Methadone, Morphine,Cocaine and Amphetamines total over 1000 for the same year (see table 6a for breakdown per substance)
http://www.ons.gov.uk/ons/publications/re-reference-tables.html?edition=tcm:77-375474
If you add drug related crime deaths to that I think you will find total deaths from or directly related to drugs will far exceed drink drive killings.
The other interesting stat on table 6a is the fact that 62 people died from Helium poisoning in 2013 in the UK !!! WTF
Can't view it in detail on my phone, but are those not total numbers from 1993 to 2013? E; dw no, just managed to get it to load.
Also drunk driving is only one specific example of an alcohol related crime/death.
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I suggest you calm down and smoke a pineapple! I was neither agreeing nor disagreeing with you. I was making a statement.
If we went idealist I'd say a blanket ban on mind altering substances is the solution. Either that or a ban on idiots.
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We'll have to ban Tea and Nutmegs then.
Isn't it weird that you could have a room full of Cactus with Mescaline inside them but substitute the Cactus for some Cannabis plants then you're a criminal?
Then so be it. Like I said, blanket. It would be the only way. However as I said before that's an idealists solution and this isn't an ideal world.
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I'm against the death penalty,I do really think that the punishment for drug smuggling even if found guilty shouldn't mean a death sentence its too harsh.
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eh?
are you saying that if someone ran through the streets of london on a saturday afternoon, stood in front of a cctv camera, shot someone in the head, waited for all the police and cameramen from sky news to come and said on live TV "Hey, I did it, I'm guilty" you can't be 100% sure
I'm sorry, but I don't agree with you
There are cases where you can be 100%, unless you want to debate physics with me (but this aint the right forum for that lol)
The only way I could agree with your statement, is if the person responsible for the shooting was a time traveller from the future and was able to instantly teleport (using technology from the future) and swap places with his twin brother. I guess as highly unlikely as that would be, I guess you can't be 100% so yeah, kinda agree with you
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Sorry bud, I didn't mean it to come across like that, my only excuse is I was at work
Its a debate that will go on forever, I just think the whole argument on drugs is hypocritical from all points.
Edit : I gave up the pineapples
Sorry bud, I didn't mean it to come across like that, my only excuse is I was at work
Its a debate that will go on forever, I just think the whole argument on drugs is hypocritical from all points.
Edit : I gave up the pineapples
I totally agree it's hypocritical. That's the big problem with it really. We have harmful substances that are totally legal and illegal substances that are less harmful. It's nuts.
Hell, you only have to look at the fact that a few years ago most of the government's own advisory body on drugs quit because of the hypocrisy!
Start of a slippery slope. Then on other groups in society which would be inevitably. No thanks...
