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Inno3d GTX 970 OC running at 80c

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Hello! :)

I have a few questions that are best answered by all of you.
I updated my rig to future proof it for GTA (when they release it grr) and my other games. I should mention that I don’t see so well, so it has been a few weeks in getting to this point.

My Inno3d GTX 970 oc sits at a constant 80c

Both stock and with my modest OC (Afterburner)


The following temps are based on Heaven 4.0 ultra settings:
Run for 45 mins then benchmark'ed I hit 70 fps....

My OC is

Power: 102%
Core clock: 155
Memory Clock: 286

With Custom fan enabled, the fan never exceeded 80% (quite noisy) and a Max temp 81c

With no fan control selected...... 83c and according to afterburner, never exceeded 41% (CPU and case fan is loudest, so card is silent)

Question

What is going on?????

I have my side casing off ATM. With the GPU Temp so high, the CPU temps increases to 70c...
I know that is acceptable but it is the GPU exhaust (and lack of airflow) causing it to rise. (55c with side off) but again the GPU temps are the same.... with or with out...

OC support have told me that the temps are in range and NOT an issue with the card so don’t worry)

I have seen others with high temp Inno3d's and others with cool temps...

Thoughts please

Strudders
 
Interestingly your hot case does actually tell you a bit about your card's functionality OP. The Heatsink and Fan are of course designed to shift heat from your card and into the air - so your hot CPU and warm case imply that it's doing its job well (if it didn't the GPU temp would be high but without spreading heat everywhere). So the card is cooling as designed. It should also be pointed out (in agreement with thefogo) that 83 is not that high a temp for a 970 assuming you're running a stress test. For example my GALAX 970 gets up to the mid 70s.

FYI The ideal state for a case is to be fully enclosed (with the side panel on) and have a decent and positive airflow (i.e. more airflow moving in than out). That way the air can flow and the static air pressure will be higher, which - amongst other positive things - tends to lead to better GPU temps and less hot air bleeding from the GPU into the CPU fan. If you'd like a few suggested improvements, could I ask for three things please: 1) a screenshot of your GPU overclock 2) a description of how your case it set up (model and the fan types the number of fans and in/out airflow directions 3) your CPU cooler model. That should get the temps optimised, but again there's nothing really wrong with the ones you have currently.

Finally if your vision is somewhat imperfect you might find EVGA precision X to be slightly easier to read, but then again you may have invested enough into getting to know Afterburner to make staying put worthwhile. Maybe google screenshots and see what you think?
 
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Don't Heaven/Valley increase the clock by 100MHz at least? And I could have sworn an Inno3d 780 boosted by 200MHz on Valley when I built a rig with one and was testing. The reading may have been wrong but it's something to consider (I didn't have time to investigate that).

If you could tell us what speed it's showing when running the Heaven test or post a screenshot, that might be good too, along with what Philo-sofa asked for.
 
TBH speed per se does not increase temps that much; it's much more driven by voltage. Either way that card is likely to be power limited with a 102% target, whatever the other settings.
 
Cheers for the help n comments

I have read all sorts about the Inno3d's, as you say they do run hot, however a lot run warm as well. should it be luck of the draw on what temp you get with what card?

My case is a
http://www.corsair.com/en-gb/carbide-series-spec-01-red-led-mid-tower-gaming-case

It has one 120mm front fan, but I will install another as I have one kicking around on my old case...

the case is on a table, so has all round airflow.

My afterburner settings

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Benchmark

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Case (bit messy)

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Yeah I have invested in Afterburner now, so happy with it currently.

I have only OC'ed it in the last week or so as I was trying to see what temp the GPU could get up to. However always 80c..., stressed, running low stress games (Farming sim 15, Euro truck sim 2) always 80c
Fire streak benchmark ( score 10557) same....
 
From your pics its seems most of your issues are due to not have an extractor fan on the back of your case.

Invest in a 120mm fan,will make a huge difference to temps im sure
 
my Inno3D card runs hot when usage is high too (high 70's on 144Hz 1080p monitor). (I have a case with 4 fans, 2 intake at front and 2 exhaust at top and rear).

it's just what you get for buying one of the cheapest 970 models. you get a budget model which runs at the factory settings, but don't expect to be able to push it much further without replacing the cooling option provided.

the fan / heatsink supplied on the card isn't amazing quality, so expect to see high temps, especially during stress testing.

maximum GPU temp is 98C on nvidia website, so don't think you have anything to worry about...

if it gets to 80C during stress testing, it is unlikely it will get that high during regular gaming (assuming you have v-sync enabled to prevent the card from processing more FPS than ur monitor can show)
 
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I that is the issue I have with it.

Regardless of how stressful the game, it is always hitting its target temp of 80c, 83c Overclocked.

my stock performance is 9700 fire strike, overclocked 10557 always the same temp,

Heaven 63 80c stock 70 83c OC

GTA 4 80c stock, 83 OC

ETS 2 80c stock 83 OC

even minecraft its running 70c

Regardless of my paranoia (which it seems to be) The 10% from Oc is quite impressive.

This is the first Nvidia card I have bought in 10 years. All my ATI cards ran at 65. However if I am being paranoid, you are all more than welcome to tell me so... :)
 
The default BIOS for that card has a temp target of 80C so it will base the fan speed on keeping it around 80C under load. Of course it is one of the cheaper models/coolers so depending on your case it may get pretty noisy doing it :p
 
cheers

after messing around a bit today with it and reading what you have all said I am more than happy now.
If it wants to stick at 80 then fine.
I will stick another fan in but it is a quiet rig TBH

I only wish I understood why there is so little difference, 1 degree or so, from having the fan at 80% via afterburner and leaving it up to the card to decide and never getting past 41%

That does make the card silent to me as the system fans are louder.... saying that, still much much quieter than my old i7 860....
 
New nvidia cards have GPU boost which will increase clock speeds, voltages and power limit up to a temperature limit. By default this limit is 80C.

However some more efficient coolers won't reach 80C before they reach a power or voltage limit.

These cause overclocking kepler and maxwell cards to be a bit of a pain as it has a mind of it's own as too what it will overclock to.

Your card is known to not have the greatest cooler though it the thermal paste application might be rubbish causing unusually high temps.
 
That all looks pretty reasonable, both in the sense that the temps are okay and that they're about what I'd expect from that case setup.

Two more fans and you'd see your CPU and GPU temps improve noticeably however. For the first fan the ideal would be a 120mm intake to the top of the case on the right hand side fitting, or a 140mm intake below your current red fan. Fan number two should well as an extractor fan to the left hand side, near your heatsink.

As MrMD said you'll benefit hugely from having that extractor; by the time the air from the CPU fan has passed through the heatsink it will have become diffuse and turbulent, so a lot of it will miss the grille at the rear of the case, heating up your 970 and even being taken back in by the CPU. Suction at the rear will improve things a lot. In addition, as you know, the 'open air' cooler on your 970 exhausts the majority of the hot air back into the case. By setting up another intake fan a smaller proportion of the intaken air will be sucked up by the CPU, meaning more airflow around the GPU, pushing the hot air it exhausts out of the case. Bear in mind three 120mm fans aren't actually three times as loud as a single 120mm fan, so you'll still have a quiet case (arguably quieter if the GPU and CPU fans run more slowly).

So a pair of fans and your temps should get closer to your ideal :)
 
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Having No rear case fan and a GPU fitted with an open air cooler your just asking for trouble with high CPU & GPU temps..

How do you expect the heat build up to get removed from inside your case ? ;)
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LOL convection??? :D

OK just spent an hour or so fitting a 100mm fan to the rear of the case by the CPU cooler. (things take much longer now)

and I had a bit of cable management as well... quite chuffed TBH

Anyway

I have re-run the Heaven benchmark. 30 mins then benchmark and my CPU temps have dropped to mid to high 50's... awesome....

GPU is still 83 but I am now OK with that being it's baseline, seeing that I am using the card to manage the fan speed, it still is quieter than the case..

Cheers all
 
It is,

However mine does not have the brackets.

When it was out this evening, the cooler is un cluttered each end, I have seen this post.

I did check it (in my own way) and it is flush and level.

I am not in any shape currently to confidently re-seat the cooler. so unfortunately for me, I am stuck with it.

Giving me an allen key with the card was a bit weird, but I am not able to use it.

Mouse mat was cool, AC-U was a mistake... LOL
 
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