Insurance question about a crash.

How did you go about buying the car back? Wouldnt mind doing that to salvage the wideband and a few other bits.

Just asked them when they were talking to me about values. It depends on the insurer on what they want you to pay. For my first one I paid £100 but for the second one I wrote off I paid £25 (someone cracked my bumper at the petrol station, got written off, go figure!) :p
 
I'll find some more cars similar to mine online but seeing as they have already looked at auto trader and seen all mx5s cost more than the 400 they are offering and they still wont offer more I can't see it helping. They have acknowledged a replacement mx5 costs more than 400 and I have the recording of them admitting that but they still wont offer more.

The insurance will do everything they can to pay as little as they can, so the emphasis is on you to MAKE them pay what you're deserved. I imagine your phone is worth more than 400... kick up a fuss and push
 
As the last 2 have posted, by telling them you only paid 400 for it, means they're going to try and get away with giving you 400.

What you need to do is, find a handful of sales that match age/mileage/condition of your car, based on what people have posted above that seems to be in the region of 1000-1500. When the handler phones you back later, you need to tell her that if the car is written off, then to get another car back with a similar spec will be £X cost. Send her the details of the cars you've found. You will then insist if they're not happy to recalculate the price then you can take the car to a garage for an estimated repair bill and provide them with either option. If they're still refusing to budge, then tell them you will be complaining to the financial ombudsman - remember to make notes of the call. And raise the complain with the ombudsman (they will be able to provide some further advice).

I thought i'd read in a previous post that the insurance company have given you a courtesy car? If that's the case then good, they'll try and speed the claims process up whilst they have to pay out for rental of a car. If you don't have one yet, get that sorted with them too. By the sounds of things this isn't going to be a quick solution.

Also to reiterate the first point, stop giving them ammunition to fire at you. It's irrelevant how much you paid for the car, and even if the restoration parts were free, and you have a family mechanic who could do all the work for you, for free. None of that will help you get back to the position you were in before the crash. Only a repair bill, or a monetary sum for a similar car will.
 
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What mileage, model, engine, spec, condition etc is yours?

There are extremely few cars below £1k and none below £500!

E: Telling them how much he paid, whilst silly, is of no relevance to the whole thing anyway as it should be about putting him back into the position he was in prior to the accident. The car could have been free and he could tell them that, doesn't matter, to buy a like for like replacement will set him back £1k+ so that's what they need to give (and then if he looks properly based on spec and condition of cars he'll get an even more accurate value).
 
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I reckon the assessor probably took one look at your stickerbombed panel and made his decision. If he didn't understand the "scene" he would have figured the car was rolling scrap before the accident.
 
The car is the one in my sig and they havn't even looked at the car so havn't seen the stickerbombing or martys signature on it lol. I'm picking up the rental car this afternoon and I will stop telling them things they dont need to know. It's a 1997 monza, 1.6 manual woth 116k on the clock. High I know but not the worse I've seen.
 
I'll find some more cars similar to mine online but seeing as they have already looked at auto trader and seen all mx5s cost more than the 400 they are offering and they still wont offer more I can't see it helping. They have acknowledged a replacement mx5 costs more than 400 and I have the recording of them admitting that but they still wont offer more.

Then keep asking, and if they don't give in, as already advised, go to the ombudsman.

Based on the location in your profile:

The cheapest MX-5 on Autotrader within ~100 miles of you is £600, and that's 3 years older with 20k more miles. That's ignoring the 200 mile round trip to go and get it...

The cheapest comparable age/mileage is £995 - couple of years newer, 5k more miles (and still 100 miles away).

The cheapest similar age, mileage and within a reasonable distance (50 miles) is £1,200.
 
The latter two there are mk2s not mk1s so are not comparable.

Doh, my bad, in which case you've got:

Higher mileage/4 years older - £995

Even higher mileage, 1 year older, but looks in VGC - £1690

Here's an almost perfect match, but it's 120 miles away - £995

For anything else that matches, you're looking at 150+ miles away...

Not sure if you can actually argue anything about being able to find a replacement locally or if that's just a myth? A quick look at the ombudsman site didn't seem to mention it. I did also notice that they apparently don't take much consideration of Autotrader etc. adverts, and instead use guides such as Glass'/Parkers

However a quick look on here: http://carvaluation.confused.com/result/

Gives the value of your car as:

Forecourt - £1280
Private Sale - £910
Trade-In - £800
Auction - £700

So somewhere between £910 - £1,280 I guess would be reasonable.
 
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As an act of indemnity they won't pay more than you're financially standing to lose, telling them how much you paid for it has given them backing to not pay higher than that amount so you're going to need to prove £400 got you an unroadworthy vehicle to restore.

Unfortunately I don't think the insurance company is being dodgy, they shouldn't be giving you more than you're losing as a principal to not motivate people to have accidents.
 
Purchase price is irrelevant

You stand to lose money at any point where you cannot buy an equivalent vehicle for the settled figure.

The OP must be put back in the position he was before their dunce of a driver hit his car. This means either the car is repaired to a pre accident condition or they settle him with enough cash to buy an equivalent vehicle. It does not matter if the vehicle was given to him free, at this point he still stands to lose money
 
Oh I agree, but he'll need to prove what this is actually going to be. Threatening the ombudsman is ok, but you cannot go directly to them without raising a complaint through the third party insurer first and exhausting that avenue although I'm sure they'd give you some advice so it will prologue the process.

Out of interest, how much did you put down for the cars value on your own insurance?
 
That should be "almost" irrelevant. Market value is what the insurance company should be paying out on. Not WBAC valuations.

It's not irrelevant, had it been a fault accident your insurer only pays up to what you're insuring it for so the value you insure it for should in theory match what you'd want in the event of a total loss claim.
 
Except they do usually say that they only pay market value too. No point in insuring a 15 year old Clio for £20k because they will only pay you the mars bar and packet of cheese & onion it's worth.

Which is why some insurers now don't even ask you the value of the car, because they only pay market value on it anyway.

Specialist insurances on the other hand, for "scene" cars and the like, can do guaranteed value policies, but you generally have to list modifications, and receipts and stuff, in advance, for that kind of policy.
 
Does that account for the % of the clock that was in KM? Worth considering (in case they don't).

It's a UK model so it's all in miles.

So somewhere between £910 - £1,280 I guess would be reasonable.

Thanks for the links I'll send them the mk1 ones tomorrow. I'd be happy with that kind of figure.

Oh I agree, but he'll need to prove what this is actually going to be. Threatening the ombudsman is ok, but you cannot go directly to them without raising a complaint through the third party insurer first and exhausting that avenue although I'm sure they'd give you some advice so it will prologue the process.

Out of interest, how much did you put down for the cars value on your own insurance?

I think I put it down for £1000, also I'm not after more than I am losing no matter what happens I've lost the hours I've put into the car and best case scenario I'm going to end up with a fairly stock mx5 which I will need to buy things for to return it to what I had before. Just glad I didn't get my turbo fitted before it happened.
 
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