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Intel 8400 VS 8700K VS 2700X
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Leaning towards a new build with 8700K, 32GB DDR4 (2400Mhz already got this)
And I hate to say it but a 1080Ti (Really dislike Nvidia right now lol)
I wanna max Far Cry 5 and Metro at 1440P.
And I hate to say it but a 1080Ti (Really dislike Nvidia right now lol)
I wanna max Far Cry 5 and Metro at 1440P.
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Don't you have a Ryzen 7 already?? Far Cry 5 is out next week and there will be plenty of tests out there and the Ryzen 2000 series is out at the end of next month.
Also,regarding Metro Exodus,look at the previous game in the series:
https://img.purch.com/r/700x450/aHR...5L0svNjYyNjAwL29yaWdpbmFsL2ltYWdlMDQ4LnBuZw==
Metro:Exodus is using the same 4A engine,and if its using RTX technology,its going to be more GPU limited IMHO,than massively CPU limited at qHD.
Every single Metro game I have played seems more of a GPU test,than a CPU one.
The thing is apparently Intel is releasing 8C/16T CPUs towards the end of the year based on the Z390 platform,so I just think any new CPU you buy now will be ditched in under 9 months.
Yeah was using an R7 1700 an VEGA64, but sold high end stuff when pricing went crazy, to get my money back while it was good and wait for new stuff.
Since then I've been reading that the 8700K might be just as good for gaming, if not still better than 2700X and am getting upgrade itch big time xD
currently using an APU and GTX 1060, wanna do a full system build and new monitor, either QHD or 4K.
Thinking about swapping my mobo anyways so moving to Intel wouldn't be any more hassle.
Wish there was new GPU's more than anything else, current cards been around way to long !!
Since then I've been reading that the 8700K might be just as good for gaming, if not still better than 2700X and am getting upgrade itch big time xD
currently using an APU and GTX 1060, wanna do a full system build and new monitor, either QHD or 4K.
Thinking about swapping my mobo anyways so moving to Intel wouldn't be any more hassle.
Wish there was new GPU's more than anything else, current cards been around way to long !!
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Ryzen 2 also might have some limitations on the old motherboards...
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TBH,I would be half tempted to buy the game and see how it runs on what you have now. The noise is,that in 2H 2018,the Z390 and 8C CFL CPUs will be released:
https://forums.overclockers.co.uk/threads/octa-core-intel-coffee-lake-s-processor-spotted.18814885/
The Z370 is basically the Z270 with slight tweaks - the Z390 is probably an improved chipset(I suspect).
Also,if Metro:Exodus is using RTX technology,I suspect there will be Volta/Ampere/Turing based cards being released closer to the launch of the game,so I don't think getting a GTX1080TI now is really worth it for that game.
+1 use what you have and see first. Cats also on the money about new gpus IMO for rtx. Maybe a 2nd hand gpu would be your best option as a stop gap if needed
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What limitations have you seen ?
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Precise Boost Overdrive won't work on most old motherboards (rumoured)
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I was expecting some newer features may not be available on the older boards for newer generation Ryzen CPU's. Especially for the third generation CPU's which were going to be the last on the AM4 socket, this is an upgrade I may be interested in. My guess is since I am manually overclocking it is unlikely to make much difference overall but will be interesting to see then.
Very sensible, and totally what I should do. Just wait a bit, that was my plan. But... I've got the upgrade itch big time, been a while since I had it. Guessing moving to a lower end setup has me twitchy xD
I agree with this I should just wait it out, this gonna be tough xD
2700X would just slot in my current setup, then I could add proper GPU upgrade later on. Ok gonna try and avoid the urge to get anything sooner. Cheers for comments boys.
Getting a bit tired of the whole intel is better for gaming. Its only true if you only care about maximum fps which no one should ever do. There are so many benchmarks where ryzen is following within 5% on averages while even beating intel on minimums and showing at times better frametimes. The only difference between these benchmarks and those that show intel completely dominating is proper ram setup. Sure, there will be the odd game where Intel will have a good lead but when you then see ryzen still pulling 130-140+ on averages you gotta ask yourself if its worth it just for that 1 or 2 games. I just don't see the logic behind buying into Intel mainstream at this point(keyphrase: AT THIS POINT) when they are so quick to EOL an almost new platform to release a new that's barely any different just to almost do it again (z270->z370->z390).
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We are not saying Intel is better for gaming. We are saying high frequency CPUs are better for gaming (e.g. 8700K is better than 7980XE). Until AMD can make some high frequency CPUs, this isn't gonna change significantly.
There are still lots of notorious game engines running on 1-2 cores out there.
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Do you know what.....................one of the most sensible posts i have read on here for ages...................including some of my own
You only have to look at the benchmarks in the graphics forum to realize that the only reason for AMD being behind is clock speed. That said, when you look at 4K benchmarks that use more threads, things become very very close even when AMD are still well behind on clock speed. If the new AMD cpu's can be clocked to 4.3/4.4Ghz, i can certainly see them beating Intel's finest in 4K benchmarks.
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AMD haven’t leaked anything about the new stuff yet so where are all these “slides” coming from?
Oh yeah.....Speculation.
Oh yeah.....Speculation.
Close. What we are looking at is single core IPC, which is not just CPU Mhz but also RAM speed and core architecture.Do you know what.....................one of the most sensible posts i have read on here for ages...................including some of my own
You only have to look at the benchmarks in the graphics forum to realize that the only reason for AMD being behind is clock speed. That said, when you look at 4K benchmarks that use more threads, things become very very close even when AMD are still well behind on clock speed. If the new AMD cpu's can be clocked to 4.3/4.4Ghz, i can certainly see them beating Intel's finest in 4K benchmarks.
I suspect the 8700k to still be ahead... But with jusf over 3 weeks till release of the 2700x it has to be worth waiting at this point.