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Intel 8400 VS 8700K VS 2700X

Sorry to spoil the Ryzen bashing. What I take from those results from a selfish view, it doesn't matter if I have a brand new Intel / AMD CPU or a 6-year old Intel / AMD CPU, you can run this game no problem with an Nvidia GTX 970 3.5GB / AMD R9 290 4GB at 60FPS.

Yep,since they forget you can select the GPU from the side box.

The OP has a GTX1060 6GB.

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From the comments of the OP,I assume they are at 1080p,so are GPU limited.

They say they want a new qHD or 4K monitor,so looking at the results at 1080p I expect that a GTX1080TI will also be more GPU limited - the CPU results are at 1080p.

A qHD monitor has double the pixels of a 1080p one and 4K has 4 times the number of pixels of a 1080p one.

OP,your current CPU is fine at 1080p and so is your GPU.

If you are wanting to run this game right now at 4K,you are going to be more GPU limited IMHO.

So,my advice stands,OP,just buy the game and play it on your current setup.

If you really want a new shiny 4K monitor,get a faster card.

I would still wait and see how the 8C CFL-S looks,or even 7NM Ryzen if appears a few months after it.
 
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Yep,since they forget you can select the GPU from the side box.

The OP has a GTX1060 6GB.
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They say they want a new qHD or 4K monitor,so looking at the results at 1080p I expect that a GTX1080TI will also be more GPU limited - the CPU results are at 1080p.
You can change the resolution for the charts too: left most drop-down box.
 
just use mp benchmarks of big popular games that is where you will see the real differences.pubg, battlefield 1 64 man, fortnite. single player benchmarks are just stupid to compare.
 
A calculator could push a 1060 tbh

It's again though.... you have to be in the mood to care about hundred of frames at small res (taken with this 1 game as a sample and still not being able to be completely sure of 1800x vs 2700x) before it's worth having an Intel. You just said more or less the same...

Currently, 1080ti at 1080p (completely ****ing wasted) has a CPU bottleneck, otherwise....
 
Some of us prefer single player games and don’t play the latest mp only trends.

Do you prefer single player games on high end GPU's at pointlessly high frame rates? (I'm not having a pop, remembering previous.... sensitivities :D ).

The "debate" has to be REALLY heavily framed at the moment to make a case for AMD being poor at games or Intel being specifically, a decent proportion better.

IF AMD beat Intel even in the edge case, single thread, high end GPU, max fps, low end visuals, 100's of frames battle that's totally the only important measure of a CPU's overall prowess.... there'd still be folks there with "some of us like our AVX512 calculations to be done faster and don't only play games".

It's already becoming a tediously small amount of ground being stuffed full of flags that apparently need to be taken to "win".

Strongest AMD (1800x) vs Strongest Intel chip (7600K) there with a 1080ti:

res----min/max---------min/max
1080p: 83/106 (amd) vs 96/124 (intel)
1440P: 83/103 (amd) vs 91/103 (intel)
2160p: 46/55 (amd) vs 46/55 (intel)

the only clear win there is on a 1080ti at poor res.
 
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Do you prefer single player games on high end GPU's at pointlessly high frame rates? (I'm not having a pop, remembering previous.... sensitivities :D ).

The "debate" has to be REALLY heavily framed at the moment to make a case for AMD being poor at games or Intel being specifically, a decent proportion better.

IF AMD beat Intel even in the edge case, single thread, high end GPU, max fps, low end visuals, 100's of frames battle that's totally the only important measure of a CPU's overall prowess.... there'd still be folks there with "some of us like our AVX512 calculations to be done faster and don't only play games".

It's already becoming a tediously small amount of ground being stuffed full of flags that apparently need to be taken to "win".

Strongest AMD (1800x) vs Strongest Intel chip (7600K) there with a 1080ti:

res----min/max---------min/max
1080p: 83/106 (amd) vs 96/124 (intel)
1440P: 83/103 (amd) vs 91/103 (intel)
2160p: 46/55 (amd) vs 46/55 (intel)

the only clear win there is on a 1080ti at poor res.

Hmm so I can’t say anything if my question isn’t answers instead of being taken off on a tangent I didn’t ask for, oh and let’s not forget being told off for clarifying what I meant/asking the question again as it wasnt answered then I’m being sensitive? Sure whatever.

But to answer your question, I’m not a FPS “*****” don’t need 500fps or anything silly. Simply want it smooth and not constantly being jerky/slide show, going to be playing on a 4K tv so want it playable on that res.
 
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Looking at building a new PC very soon mainly for upcoming games Far Cry 5 and the new Metro game which I will play on PC (Shooters on console uuugghhh)

I can build a 8400 / 8700K rig now or hold fire for 2700x and use exisiting (mid end basic) AM4 mobo.

Which of these chips would be best for gaming and overall productivity, value etc?

Plz discuss.

If you're playing at 1080p then intel, above that resolution, you're more and more graphics card bound and could save money by going Ryzen and buying a better GPU.
 
it depends if you play big mp games.then you want intel.single player yeah ryzen or intel but big mp games.ryzen can be upto 30 / 40 fps on some intel cpus and games.pubg/battlefield for eg.
 
MGPU is working well in FC5 for SLI 40+% bump @1440p 60% @4K from hardware unboxed, CF with Vega has much higher scaling than SLI by another 20%. Hardware unboxed youtube.
 
The OP is talking about FarCry 5 and Metro:Exodus - the first will run fine at 1080p with their current setup,and for FarCry5 I would be more inclined to wait,especially for the updated Nvidia gaming GPUs this year,if the OP wants to try out things like RTX,etc.
 
Ryzen has no problems with BF1 or Fortnite, PUBG will struggle on any cpu it's still a mess of a game.

its not that ryzen can do well in all of those its the fact that intel is way infront in those games.look at those games and how many play them . its literally 90 percent of pc gaming at the moment.why would you opt for 20-30 fps less ? why have a okay cpu when you can have a better cpu for gaming ? because its okay ? nah makes no sense.
 
its not that ryzen can do well in all of those its the fact that intel is way infront in those games.look at those games and how many play them . its literally 90 percent of pc gaming at the moment.why would you opt for 20-30 fps less ? why have a okay cpu when you can have a better cpu for gaming ? because its okay ? nah makes no sense.

Because it was cheaper so you could buy a better GPU and overall get better performance in those games?
What res would the "20-30 fps less" be based on?

Fortnite, for example, is already GPU limited at 1440p.
Alternatively, the whole idea of "these are competitive titles, many folks want to hit a 60fps @ 1080p minimum" would rather move away from the 20-30fps views too. (Meaning, they're "for the masses". There's other games you'd want to get the measuring sticks out for).

We're again in the "only 200fps vs 300fps at 1080p is important" ballpark of "Intel wins".
 
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