US government can't afford Intel to lose. As they can print unlimited quantities of money, they can continue to give them practically free new fabs, as long as they're in the US..
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Intel announces three new Xeon architectures launching within next 2 years built on 3nm and 1.8nm
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US government can't afford Intel to lose. As they can print unlimited quantities of money, they can continue to give them practically free new fabs, as long as they're in the US..
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Yes, something like that. Otherwise, they would have ended up like Nokia. Taxpayers' money keeps them alive.
Intel are in Ireland, Malaysia, Israel, Taiwan plus the US sites. Outside of Taiwan, Intel’s supply chain is fabulously secure.
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Intel have to prove their worth, they have to make those fabs work and compete, if they don't the government isn't going to keep financing something that doesn't work.
At some point the government is going to want to see a return on their investment and TSMC are building fabs in the US now, Intel are no longer the only hope for bleeding edge western fabs.
Unless they get the likes of Apple, AMD, Nvidia, Qualcomm using their fabs Intel will find it very hard indeed to make a success of it. They cannot be bleeding edge without them.
TSMC are the best because they have the best customers, they have the best expertise making their fabs the best with the most advanced technology.
Intel needs to entice them over. Apple and AMD at least are quite happy where they are and both don't like Intel much.
At some point the government is going to want to see a return on their investment and TSMC are building fabs in the US now, Intel are no longer the only hope for bleeding edge western fabs.
Unless they get the likes of Apple, AMD, Nvidia, Qualcomm using their fabs Intel will find it very hard indeed to make a success of it. They cannot be bleeding edge without them.
TSMC are the best because they have the best customers, they have the best expertise making their fabs the best with the most advanced technology.
Intel needs to entice them over. Apple and AMD at least are quite happy where they are and both don't like Intel much.
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Intel is more reliable than amd. Cpu degradation, burnt mobos and cpus have plagued amd and shown their true colours.
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Why does it always devolve in to one of you steelmanning your insecurities?
CPU degradation would depend on the quality of the silicon, that's TSMC silicon, if that was poor it would be a story.
Intel's CPU's have a history of burning the CPU socket, but not from some mistake made by the motherboard vendor, they have burned socket from simply drawing too much power.
I have had a lot of CPU's in my time, from both AMD and Intel, all of them have been pretty reliable, including my now 3 year old 5800X which is running 18 hours a day every day and has never put a foot wrong, its kinda boring when things just work and keep working without complaint, its as fresh today as the day i installed it, there are many more trouble free years left in it. A decade, i have no doubt.
I have never had a problem with any Intel or AMD CPU. CPU's are the most reliable long lasting thing's in a PC. they are the only thing i'm confident in buying used.
Please, lets just stop with this nonsense.
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just because you havent had a failure doesnt mean that no failures exist. just google ryzen degradation, its real, you need to get woke and fast.
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I just googled "Intel CPU degradation" its real.....
If you look for it you will find it. doesn't make it any more real.
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Problem is you dont go looking for amd CPU issues, they find you.
Even der8auer and buildzoid done videos on this and proved amd is degrading so id put more trust in what they say over the tripe you preach.
Yet Intel are by far the leader when it comes to CPU performance degradation with all the security holes they had to fix.
Plus, Intel are not half as generous as they were when they did the Sandy Bridge chipset or the P4 FDIV bug recalls.
In an ideal world, there would be proper recalls for any hardware faults - and 10-20% performance degradation really should be considered a hardware fault. Pretty sure everyone is on the never admit a fault train now: Nvidia famously did nothing about their bumbgate solder defects, Samsung never explained why the 840 (non-EVO) drives started failing, AMD hushed that bug they had compiling code.
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derbauer the self proclaimed genius expert insisted those few Radeon 6000 series cracked die GPU's that one repair guy had was due to "AMD Drivers" and that AMD needed to acknowledge this serious problem and everyone should be scared of AMD blah blah blah....
I'm not an expert, i'm one of the dumbest people you would ever meet, i instinctively knew what the problem was the moment i thought about it for 3 seconds and cited that problem in the thread, it was caused by condensation in the die that got there from pressure washing the GPU's, crypto miners do that before flogging them on.
Youtube personalities put on high pedestals, dumber than a dumb normie and more often than not with their own vested interests, AMD's CPU's are not made of rubber, they don't need overpriced thermal grease to stop them melting, when those are your investments AMD are a nuisance to you because they stop Intel selling more of their crap so he can sell you more of his crap to stop the CPU's bending and overheating.
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that cant be right?
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Water, or high humidity air expends when it gets warm, in a sealed confined space that expansion only leads to one thing.
Its basic physics.
Yes, turns out that's exactly what it was, i figured that out with a little knowledge and a small amount of intelligence. In about 3 seconds flat.
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i get the water damage symptoms but people cant be using a pressure washer on gpus thats absurd.
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The big difference between TSMC and Intel is, you can go to TSMC and build pretty much any type of micro and rest assured TSMC will deliver on its end of the deal. With Intel anything outside of under performing, out of spec and years late X86 is uncharted waters and I think that is the challenge for Intel to open.
The US GOV isn’t going to be too discerning of Intels technology production issues, past on time delivery of course. It’s mainly interested in not being cut off from chips to supply it’s military production.
I’m not sure who is more reliable between those two. Both are more reliable than Nvidia though.
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That's a server GPU?
It’s the first phase of Ponte Vecchio, CPU, APU, AI and Rambo cache. Plan is to move as many forms of processing to Xeon CPU sockets as possible. Super sneaky, but also a logical move.