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Intel Arc series unveiled with the Alchemist dGPU to arrive in Q1 2022
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Some slots may only provide 25W (I have some old Dells in mind here). And extra power may allow for overclocking.
Heard a thing, don't know how true it is, that as of yet 3DMark won't actually validate any intel Arc benchmarks. So might not be that great if you can't get on the scoreboard
Don
To be fair, the majority of people in this subforum seem to spend more time arguing about benchmarks than gaming anyway, so could be ideal
it's a multimedia card? no card ever saw driver boosts after launch right?
whats the point in coming in here just to post crap? hows it not considered trolling.
next time AMD release something I'ma go heavy flaming their productrs for any tiny failure, did they ever fix their drivers since catalyst or are they still utter crap?
catalyst the rebrand cos they had such a bad rep.... yet carried on being terrible so they had to rebrand them again... jesus some companies never learn?
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Yup, these will pretty much fail in the retail market and they'll be unloaded to said OEM's at a discounted rate no doubt.
Well, Intel have had ages to sort out some drivers.
The AT thread on this has now been renamed as "Intel to develop discrete GPUs - Almost 5 years later, cards are here!"
Plus there is the historical thing: Intel have so many outstanding GPU driver issues which they have never fixed.
Fine wine might play a part but from the look of it, we'd have to go back a long time to a card which was release with so many obvious issues.
And this aren't for new games where there is dirty playing all the time with "game ready" drivers often involving sponsorships and one company or the other - although it has been the green team far more often than the red - going out of their way to make some, possible last minute, changes to make the other look bad.
No, these are established titles where the performance of this Intel card is far away of the same card at synthetics that it really looks like their driver team spend far too much effort optimising for synthetics which is always something we should find suspicious.
The AT thread on this has now been renamed as "Intel to develop discrete GPUs - Almost 5 years later, cards are here!"
Plus there is the historical thing: Intel have so many outstanding GPU driver issues which they have never fixed.
Fine wine might play a part but from the look of it, we'd have to go back a long time to a card which was release with so many obvious issues.
And this aren't for new games where there is dirty playing all the time with "game ready" drivers often involving sponsorships and one company or the other - although it has been the green team far more often than the red - going out of their way to make some, possible last minute, changes to make the other look bad.
No, these are established titles where the performance of this Intel card is far away of the same card at synthetics that it really looks like their driver team spend far too much effort optimising for synthetics which is always something we should find suspicious.
Might want to enquire with the tech sites about that then. it was widely expected to become the next geforce gpu but due to cost it wasn't, to say most people reallised that at the time is simply wrong.
No, it was released as a near £3k "prosumer card", its also has the distinction of being the first titan card that nvidia didn't have "geforce" slapped onto the cooler. So for once they could actually claim this wasn't a gaming card by not having it branded as such, and at near 3k it was a stupidly priced card anyway, well out of the reach of 99.9% of "gamers".
Caporegime
If anyone likes to only run synthetic benchmarks, this card is a bargain:
AKA, vs 6400/6500 in synthetics it is about +40%, in games it is about -30%.
Games are overrated anyhow, so might as well run 3DMark!
You just know Intel spent a Billion $ and a million man hours optimising for synthetics so the marketing team can make it look much better than it actually is.
And that's the easy bit, getting it to work that well across a thousand games is a thousand times more difficult than beating the RX 6500 XT in Ray Tracing synthetics.
This thing is already a dud.
Wonder if instead of people moaning about AMD drivers,now they will moan about Intel ones?!
Due Intel having been so profitable for so many decades, it is easy to forget that Intel have a long history of spending $billions and having little to show for it.
Pricing all these adventures is hard (plus it would have to adjusted for inflation), but a short list includes:
- Entry into networking when they were worried about Cisco and Juniper etc. Some of the work did lead somewhere.
- Larrabee aka x86 everywhere. A minor spin-off did launch as Knights Landing etc.
- Contra revenue to try save Atom. Dumping is illegal in some markets and segments but this wasn't quite the same.
- 4G and 5G modems
- McAfee
- some other things I've forgotten?
Well not if Intel do their usual thing and give up on their entry into dGPUs!Wonder if instead of people moaning about AMD drivers,now they will moan about Intel ones?!
Caporegime
Intel Margins 2016: 67%
Intel margins 2022: 50%
Intel revenue 2021: $79 Billion
Intel predicted revenue 2022: $76 Billion
Intel are behind AMD in the technology curve
Intel are about 3 generations behind TSMC in fab technology.
Nvidia, Qualcomm, Texas Instruments, AMD, ARMH, Apple, Intel.... tell me one that isn't making a lot of money, they all are, Intel are the only ones out of all of them in decline.
knowing intel, they will probably end up contracted to buy a pallet full of these for every 3 pallets of CPUs they want
they are? explain
Caporegime
AMD can split an X86 CPU in to its constitute components and stack them as individual chips both in the 2D and 3D, Intel can't, they are still monolithic. AMD are the first and still the only ones with this ability in X86. 5 years and counting, for 2D stacking.
AMD X86 CPU's are also architecturally more efficient, much smaller more power efficient cores for similar performance per core, its why Intel are losing the hyper scale data-centre battle. They just cannot compete with AMD's offerings.
TSMC are on 6nm, 5nm and now 3nm, Intel 7 is equvilent to TSMC 7nm.
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Nvidia's actions at the Titan V launch say everything.
The card was launched with Gaming drivers but not Professional drivers.
Or in other words it was a very expensive gaming card.
The other things that Nvidia did was limit the memory to 12GB and disable NVLink.
Again this is fine for gaming but does limit its professional uses.
As to all the tech sites they were totally blind sided when the Titan V launched as they had zero knowledge or rumours that the card even existed and it came as a complete surprise to all of them.
Volta was expected to be the next big line of geforce cards and it never happened due to cost, hence "poor volta". They released this as a gimmick to bilk gullible people, nothing more.