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Intel bug incoming? Meltdown and Spectre exploits

Chuk_Chuk said:
Not sure if this has been mentioned, but i remember reading that a number of researchers came across one of the vulnerabilities almost at the same time. Is there potentially some sort of virus out there that already uses this?
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The most common theory is that it would be nation states.
The problem is there's no way of knowing.
I think it's pretty much a certainty that now it's known there'll be crims exploiting it.
 
beany_bot said:
So my haswell doesnt? again. upgrading to AMD this year so meh.
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I think I might have misunderstood the article. They say microcode updates are available now from Intel to vendors for Skylake and later, not that they are not necessary for older CPUs, just that Intel hasn't provided them yet. Seems like we might be out of luck after all.
 
ltron said:
I think I might have misunderstood the article. They say microcode updates are available now from Intel to vendors for Skylake and later, not that they are not necessary for older CPUs, just that Intel hasn't provided them yet. Seems like we might be out of luck after all.
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Intel's latest microcode updates are from 17/11/2017 so if they have given any updates to vendors, they haven't publicly released them yet.
 
billysielu said:
The most common theory is that it would be nation states.
The problem is there's no way of knowing.
I think it's pretty much a certainty that now it's known there'll be crims exploiting it.
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Out of curiosity are there any articles giving examples as to what a common criminal could use this for?
 
For the life of me I do not understand these people who are saying "No real drop in FPS doesent affect me" and are even saying they wont install patch because it will hinder performance. Are you people nuts? Are you ever going to go banks site with your computer? Ever going to be putting Credit card info on anywhere? Ever logging in on any site? Ever logging to program on your computer? If you are and dont have every last patch and firmware u are absolutely ******.
 
Chuk_Chuk said:
Out of curiosity are there any articles giving examples as to what a common criminal could use this for?
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I haven't seen anything specific, but it's about being able to get data they shouldn't be able to get, passwords being the obvious example. Obviously the severity of that varies depending on who's machine it is and what information they get. Generally the worse scenarios are against smaller cloud providers, health care providers, banks, governments? Think of the kinds of organisations running older hardware and OS who aren't going to be secured any time soon.

B12B6 said:
For the life of me I do not understand these people who are saying "No real drop in FPS doesent affect me" and are even saying they wont install patch because it will hinder performance. Are you people nuts? Are you ever going to go banks site with your computer? Ever going to be putting Credit card info on anywhere? Ever logging in on any site? Ever logging to program on your computer? If you are and dont have every last patch and firmware u are absolutely ******.
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I think it's worse than that because you don't even have to type it in.
 
billysielu said:
The most common theory is that it would be nation states.
The problem is there's no way of knowing.
I think it's pretty much a certainty that now it's known there'll be crims exploiting it.
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Could this vulnerability/bug has something to do with the kaspersky Anti Virus hacking.
 
B12B6 said:
For the life of me I do not understand these people who are saying "No real drop in FPS doesent affect me" and are even saying they wont install patch because it will hinder performance. Are you people nuts? Are you ever going to go banks site with your computer? Ever going to be putting Credit card info on anywhere? Ever logging in on any site? Ever logging to program on your computer? If you are and dont have every last patch and firmware u are absolutely ******.
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To play devils advocate here. Whats the worst that could happen?
I've had money stolen from my accounts before. 1 call to the bank and 48 hours later the money is returned to me. It's not the end of the world.
 
beany_bot said:
To play devils advocate here. Whats the worst that could happen?
I've had money stolen from my accounts before. 1 call to the bank and 48 hours later the money is returned to me. It's not the end of the world.
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Not everyone is that lucky tbh. Also depends on amount too.
 
beany_bot said:
To play devils advocate here. Whats the worst that could happen?
I've had money stolen from my accounts before. 1 call to the bank and 48 hours later the money is returned to me. It's not the end of the world.
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I don't know what is the worst that could happen? A few people are very concerned about the performance hit. How about if you lost all your data? ID theft? loose all your bitcoins?
 
beany_bot said:
To play devils advocate here. Whats the worst that could happen?
I've had money stolen from my accounts before. 1 call to the bank and 48 hours later the money is returned to me. It's not the end of the world.
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Why not just patch? It seems to have little to no ill affect or performance loss to home desktops.
Why go though the hastle of having to call the bank?
 
beany_bot said:
To play devils advocate here. Whats the worst that could happen?
I've had money stolen from my accounts before. 1 call to the bank and 48 hours later the money is returned to me. It's not the end of the world.
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I was only give a little nug what could happen. Think if they do that 100million people? And its not only bank. What if they are able to hack Police, Goverments, Banks, Hospitals. Pretty much everyone is using x86 one way or another. Do you have sensitive data on your encrypted hard drives? Well its useless as they can get your password. Think how many people there are around the world who have data like that wich should not get hands of wrong people.
 
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