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Intel bug incoming? Meltdown and Spectre exploits

Data leaks could involve credentials though that could give a hacker access requiring backups due to having to sanitise systems or malicious deletion, etc.
 
CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
My current IB Core i7 is becoming a limitation in some games - the current Ryzen won't really be much of an upgrade in those games,and Intel has security issues,plus RAM is silly priced too(although I have 16GB of 2400MHZ DDR4 I got for £56). So looks like I will be waiting longer for something like Zen 2 at this point.
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I'm currently waiting on a new build... I either go now with Ryzen now, or wait and see if the next gen of Zen chips have actual hardware fixes against Spectre. I've seen plenty of benchmarks when it comes to the Intel "fixes", but not seen any benchmarks when it comes to patched AMD chips.
 
PowerPie5000 said:
I'm currently waiting on a new build... I either go now with Ryzen now, or wait and see if the next gen of Zen chips have actual hardware fixes against Spectre. I've seen plenty of benchmarks when it comes to the Intel "fixes", but not seen any benchmarks when it comes to patched AMD chips.
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I think computerbase.de or PCGH(can't remember which),did some tests with both IIRC??
 
Random question: Would running my browser in a virtual box linux OS be a relatively safe way to mitigate pretty much everything for a short while? (Obviously browser passwords are still at risk I guess?)
 
Most browsers have received updates which include their own mitigation measures. Firefox and Chrome also have a site isolation feature which can provide further protection if enabled.

Making sure you are running one of these is the best you can do at the moment to mitigate browser-based attacks.
 
Since intel has the worse of the security hardware problems, have they even bothered discounting any of their cpu lineup since this stuff came out? From the looks of it they seem to think consumers are idiots and will still pay up.. for the upgrade path..and worse the best you get is 6core 8700k as the only semi reasonable competitive price...8+ core just goes into rip off land... for me that is kinda pathetic for the investment cost when you factor in the higher mobo prices and insane ram prices and the security problems.

I've been looking at upgrading and its only the 8700k that stands out.. but not by much when I could save at least £100 if not more and go with ryzen for the 3 cpu+mobo+ram parts I need.. why would I bother spending more for the intel setup when 1) it has the worst vulnerabilities 2) the patches don't even work without other issues (dataloss, restarts, performance reduction in certain workloads), 3) windows 10 sucks and frankly the patches are only semi working on that from what I've heard.

At this point I am kinda writing intel off completely as monopoly that has fleeced consumers for too long, and even if I don't get the AMD setup right now (because the future Zen+ stuff coming out has me kinda thinking about just waiting some more anyway) it is still definitely looking like a future AMD setup and jumping ship from intel.
 
So Dell were finally planning to release a BIOS update for my laptop that would fix SA-00086 (latest Intel ME security flaw) yesterday, but since they had also bundled in updated microcode for Spectre 2, they've had to suspend the release until Intel fix the reboot/stability issues with those updates.

Sigh...
 
Intel has released new production microcode for Skylake platforms to OEMs this week. Other platforms due in the coming days. Hopefully they tested it this time.
 
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It looks like others new about the bug in 2016 :p

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