It's good times! Things are going back to how they should be, with AMD in the rear window, or well, atleast when it comes to gaming
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Intel Claws Back Desktop PC and Notebook Market Share From AMD, First Time in Three Years
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It's good times! Things are going back to how they should be, with AMD in the rear window, or well, atleast when it comes to gaming
I think you're trolling, but can't be too sure these days, there are many novices out there that get sucked in by clickbait articles etc, so I'll assume you just don't know better.
RTX 3080 = 320W TDP
RTX 3090 350W TDP
TDP = Thermal design power
Compare the 3000 series to the 2000 series, the 1000 series, 900 series etc. 3000 series are a major step up in in TDP. They use far more power and output far more heat than previous generations.
320W can be adequately cooled by a large enough or efficient enough cooler, to run at 50DC, 60DC or 70DC at full load, though this still doesn't change it's TDP.
As long as the cooling solution used is good enough, you can have a 320W graphics card that runs cool and quiet, though it's still pumping out the same amount of heat into the room and is still using the same amount of electricity.
The majority have voted with their wallets. The leagues of 3080, 3090 owners (and potential owners waiting to snap one up) simply don't care about the heat output or the electricity consumption. They just want the best.
Rocket Lake, with it's 125W TDP will be the same. Sure, load up all 8C16T with a AVX-512 workload (something Ryzen doesn't support, and probably never will) and you'll see even higher TDP and heat output. Fire up the latest AAA game. Lets say Cyberpunk. You won't see anywhere near 100% utilization, temps will be low, you'll just have the best performance of any CPU on the planet.
Put a decent cooler on Rocket Lake, and you won't see 100DC. You'll see the usual 70, 80DC as long as it's got a beefy Noctua or a nice AIO on it.
Majority buy the best performing CPU. For games, this won't be a 16 core 5950X, it'll be the 11900k, which will also be a heck of a lot cheaper and more importantly, you'll actually find them in stock!
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The 11900K isn't competing with the 5950X, that CPU is in a league of it's own. It's the 11900K vs the 5900X. And Intel will probably price it the same. There were some uninspiring Rocket Lake performance leaks earlier, but we'll see when the real deal drops.
I think lots of expectations have been the highest tier Intel CPU will run too hot, but from the 8700K to the 10900K, thermals haven't been bad.
I was joking about my earlier comment of course. AMD prioritised the console SOC, and Epyc, and sell everything they can make. AMD are on the up :
I think lots of expectations have been the highest tier Intel CPU will run too hot, but from the 8700K to the 10900K, thermals haven't been bad.
I was joking about my earlier comment of course. AMD prioritised the console SOC, and Epyc, and sell everything they can make. AMD are on the up :
This is what i like
Core i5-10600K 4.10GHz (Comet Lake) Socket LGA1200 Processor £229.99
Ryzen 5 5600X Six Core 4.6GHz (Socket AM4) Processor £329.99
there is no way i can justify buying ryzen then i can save 100 on intell chip. And before any one say but what about productivity ? well i like to put Straberys and spinach in my blender.
Competition is good to us all.
Core i5-10600K 4.10GHz (Comet Lake) Socket LGA1200 Processor £229.99
Ryzen 5 5600X Six Core 4.6GHz (Socket AM4) Processor £329.99
there is no way i can justify buying ryzen then i can save 100 on intell chip. And before any one say but what about productivity ? well i like to put Straberys and spinach in my blender.
Competition is good to us all.
The 11900K isn't competing with the 5950X, that CPU is in a league of it's own. It's the 11900K vs the 5900X. And Intel will probably price it the same. There were some uninspiring Rocket Lake performance leaks earlier, but we'll see when the real deal drops.
I think lots of expectations have been the highest tier Intel CPU will run too hot, but from the 8700K to the 10900K, thermals haven't been bad.
I was joking about my earlier comment of course. AMD prioritised the console SOC, and Epyc, and sell everything they can make. AMD are on the up :
11900k will outperform the 5950x in games. The 5950x will destroy it in multi-threaded workloads, though the type of user buying a 16 core CPU for serious productivity is likely a developer with a xeon/epic workstation, ECC, extra PCI-E lanes, IE not buying consumer parts.
the ryzen is much faster in games, take your pick
Or save another £100 and get a 10400f for £128, and see no difference still...
yes much faster like 3 fps faster .
It's not "much" faster, it's slightly ahead, but not in all games, and that slight lead doesn't justify the price difference, especially not when the 10600k is so OC friendly and one easily can get it ahead of the 5600x stock.
If the most recent numbers from Passmark is correct it will.
It won't. 11900K is slower than the Ryzen 7 5800X.
And most probably will end slower than a six-core Ryzen 5 6600X Zen 4.
PassMark - AMD Ryzen 9 5950X - Price performance comparison (cpubenchmark.net)
PassMark - AMD Ryzen 7 5800X - Price performance comparison (cpubenchmark.net)
PassMark - Intel Core i9-11900K @ 3.50GHz - Price performance comparison (cpubenchmark.net)
It's not "much" faster, it's slightly ahead, but not in all games, and that slight lead doesn't justify the price difference, especially not when the 10600k is so OC friendly and one easily can get it ahead of the 5600x stock.
If the most recent numbers from Passmark is correct it will.
Lol posting single core results to try and argue that 16 core cpu should be compared to a 8 core - that's blatant, you couldn't get honk people would not notice
The 5600x is a great overclocker too in case you didn't notice and even at stock beats the 10900k by 30% in some games
200fps more in csgo
One core is only 1/8th of the whole chip in 911900K, and 1/16th of the whole chip in 95950X.
What are you on about? The 5800X is an 8 core.
It's good times! Things are going back to how they should be, with AMD in the rear window, or well, atleast when it comes to gaming
Meanwhile, in the real world Intel are many years behind with no sign of the situation improving for them.
They were talking about the 16-core Ryzen 9 5950X.
There is no argument, ADM is in much better position in technology, the argument is Price vs performance vs avalability.
No one will benefit from a CPU that cost the earth.
No one will benefit from a CPU thats never in stock.
ALL of you have to admit, while intell is behind on technology, yes intels chips run hoter and yes they are slower, but they getting cheaper, and in stock. No mater which way you going to spin this argument------ Lower price and in stock will WIN every time. (funny becoz AMD use to be in this place.)
No one will benefit from a CPU that cost the earth.
No one will benefit from a CPU thats never in stock.
ALL of you have to admit, while intell is behind on technology, yes intels chips run hoter and yes they are slower, but they getting cheaper, and in stock. No mater which way you going to spin this argument------ Lower price and in stock will WIN every time. (funny becoz AMD use to be in this place.)
The situation in Taiwan is quite normal - the reported new cases for February 6th, are.... err... 1 https://www.google.com/search?q=cor...1.69i57j0l9.4847j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
For a comparison - more than 100,000 new cases in the U.S alone.
TSMC shouldn't be hit so hard, I don't understand why the U.S and Intel fabs remain open and making chips, while Taiwan cannot meet the demand.