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Intel Core i9-11900KF 3.5GHz (Rocket Lake) Socket LGA1200 Processor - Retail

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Ordered mine as likely the fastest gaming CPU money can buy at least until AMD release something new. Surprised it's not mentioned here that Rocket Lake is for pre-order sale on the OC site. Get em while you can!
 
Do you know Dave?

Who?

I'm going by the engineering sample benchmarks that say best single threaded performance (most important for gaming) with decent overall performance and the claimed storage performance. Of course we wont know for sure until prod versions get benchmarked but based on what we know so far this is the case.
 
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Dave. He has an "enthusiasm" for Rocket Lake and all things Intel.

I don't care what label it has on it. I just care about fps in FPS games and then Nvme load speed. I ordered a Z590 Motherboard too so could have gone AMD but balance of probability this is going to be faster for my use case.
 
I think you'll find the Nvme load speed you mentioned has already been completely de-bunked..........................unless of course you want to run your new gaming rig with no GPU ?

Not sure what you mean because Z590 has 4 lanes dedicated to Nvme unless I misunderstood the Asus specs that said I can run 16+4 and the benchmark is using a GPU as per Intel Shows Its Rocket Lake Core i9-11900K Flagship CPU Is 11% Faster Than AMD Ryzen 9 5950X In PCIe Gen 4 Benchmark (wccftech.com)? Anyway it's secondary to fps for me.
 
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Yes...........................and shortly after Intel admitted that the drive was connected to to a PCIe riser from the GPU slot.........................."just to make shure it was using the CPU lane and not the chipset", that is a quote from Ryan Shrout. But you already knew that i guess.

Nope - link to that?
Yes...........................and shortly after Intel admitted that the drive was connected to to a PCIe riser from the GPU slot.........................."just to make shure it was using the CPU lane and not the chipset", that is a quote from Ryan Shrout. But you already knew that i guess.

And anyway Nvme is directly from the CPU in Rocket Lake / Z590:

https://cdn.videocardz.com/1/2020/03/Intel-Rocket-Lake-S-VideoCardz.jpg

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Must be Daves Alt :D didn’t test using the M.2 slots, he used a x16 slot with a riser card to make sure it was CPU attached

8 cores for £500+ bargain

8 of the fastest cores I can buy though for £508.69 delivered. I'm not worried about total compute power. Just gaming. And fewer faster cores is almost always better than more slower ones for that assuming enough overall processing power.
 
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https://www.archyde.com/intel-strangely-tested-the-ryzen-9-5950x-on-a-non-existent-board/




As indeed are the NVMe slots on AMD boards. Does that not even make you slightly curious as to why Intel decided to use a riser on the GPU slot ?

I would guess that they were not certain which motherboard Nvme slots were CPU driven and which were chipset driven. As a board with say 4 slots will commonly have 2 from CPU and 2 from Z590.

If both are CPU direct I cant see why a GPU riser would give any gain as Nvme gen 4 cards are limited to 4 lanes anyway?
 
Lets hope for you that part of the sentence where you said 'likely' becomes true, otherwise you just bought into a slower platform for more money that is EOL already. Coming from a totally professional point of view, if I tried to recommend a system based on guessing and something being 'likely' and it turned out it wasn't there'd be brown stuff all of the fan, luckily for you all it is for is playing games so it makes no difference really.

Faster for most gaming going by current single core performance benchmarks - not guessing - I could be being lied to, but seems unlikely as there are several leaked benchmarks now. And when it no longer is fastest then that's what eBay is for.

Personally don't think it's worth it , I myself have an 6700k i7 and was interested in upgrading to 8 cores if the price was right and I only game

I rather go with AMD with 5800x also the platform is overall better imo and option for more cores down the line better value for money

Rocket lake is purely stop gap wouldn't want to be with it for next few years when alder lake isn't far off

Don't disagree but its likely fastest for my gaming uses right now until the next AMD or Intel CPU launch without worrying about relative value or lifetime.
 
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I've not seen any leaked benchmarks for the 11900K(F), all I've seen are Intel's own slides which are about as trustworthy as D. Trump. I don't see the point in pre-ordering something when there will be no stock shortage, you are just going to pay the highest amount and the least amount of verifiable information. It's your cash though, feel free to burn it how you like, and what ever you have left I am sure the CPU will burn the rest. :D

See for instance: Intel Core i9-11900K CPU-Z Benchmark Score Leaks | TechPowerUp

Who says there won't be a shortage? Took a while to get a Comet Lake i9. I still have consumer rights to return it for a period or cancel my pre-order if new information comes to light.
 
That's a CPU-Z leak from the 1st Jan, not a game, and not representative of how it will perform in a game. If you are basing your purchase on that sort of data, then you might as well ask a 4 year old what they think it will be like.

Single threaded performance is largely representative of that though for fps. Fewer faster cores in general > more slower cores as very few games scale linearly across many threads and there is an overhead of context switching. This isn't exactly new news.
 
Zen 3 gets you faster cores and more cores so you needn't worry about it, you can have both!

Plus it doesn't use the power of a small African state whilst using it.

I'm not worried about the power bill. And unless we are being lied to including leaked benchmarks then this beats anything from AMD in single core performance.
 
Are you seriously suggesting that Intel didn't know which slots on their own MB are connected directly to the cpu ? Don't take us for tech idiots on here please, some of us have been around on this site longer than others on here popped out of mum. Off course they knew and it was typical Shrout misinformation, as indeed is "The best gaming cpu" rubbish being spouted.

It was an Asus Rog Xtreme XIII unreleased motherboard not an Intel one, so yes it's quite conceivable that they were not sure.
 
The 11700K reviews would suggest otherwise. Intel are well known for leaking dubious benchmarks.

Power is very relevant because once things warm up in the real world those headline boost speeds drop off quickly. Make for pretty benchmark numbers though.

I am using an AIO watercooler for the CPU so really not an issue for me.
 
This is only true if you are playing something like a Racing SIM, or much older games where they use one core much more heavily than others. This isn't the case any more if you are playing modern titles, why don't you go an look at some reviews for the 10900K or even the 10600K then add 3-5% on average to that and you'll be able to extrapolate the 11900K performance at best, if cooled well and if you can get the RAM latency down to the same as the 10900K.

We shall see in about 2 weeks. I can see there are a lot of butthurt AMD owners here worried they might not have the fastest gaming hardware anymore, and having to resort to claims that Intel are lying and benchmarks are fake to be able to back that up.
 
Not sure why anyone would be butthurt as you put it, but it seems like you would like that for some reason. The current best advice I give is FPS/£ not paying the most for 1-5% gains in 1-2 games, and at low resolutions etc. So many people are happy to waste money, and leave other parts of their system wanting its a shame really. Having an artificially segmented product like the 11900K vs the 11700K and £140 that is literally given away for virtually noting is pretty sad state of affairs to be in, unless its e-peen or something similar.

If I cared that much about cost / performance I would get another Xbox Series X. Economy isn't the aim here. I will no doubt eventually eBay it to upgrade again it just like my current setup so will get a chunk back too.
 
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Because they've ruined the intercore latency bodging the architecture onto 14nm. Have you looked at the Anandtech numbers or just the Intel marketing slides you've been given?

What resolution do you game at out of interest?

And they have upped the cache to compensate. The difference is peanuts and still changing subject to microcode changes as the article mentions:

https://images.anandtech.com/doci/16535/New Structural Latency_575px.png





And I run 1080p - 4K depending on frame rate target vs detail trade off for the game in question. I have a 240fps monitor and a 144fps monitor atm. And a QLED Neo on order for large screen / mostly Xbox / proper HDR1000+
 
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hey have upped the cache to compensate. The difference is peanuts and still changing subject to microcode changes as the article mentions:
Fair enough, as I said your money to burn. Also an Xbox isn't the same as a PC, I can't edit photo's and video on the Xbox, to name one thing.

The attitude you are displaying here isn't going to win you anybody's agreement btw, since a vast majority will go on evidence based decisions rather than emotional ones, so as you said wait two weeks and you might find some agreement, but leaked CPU-Z screenshots aren't helping your argument.

I don't do that on my PC either. And the evidence we have right now is that Rocket Lake has significantly faster single threaded performance than anything else.
 
Oh dear, dude, virtually every review site has shook their head at the samples they've have. Watch Leo on kitguru!
He sakes for the 900, and meh at the 700, but nods for the lowers.
It won't be the fastest gaming CPU, no one seems to be even contemplating that unfortunately.
Not even intel.
They're talking up how great the iGUP is within, which if you game will be the very first thing you disable.
Soz :/

I'm buying the version without any GPU. And based on the per thread performance benchmarks we have seen so far Rocket Lake should be fastest for more games than any other option right now:

https://cdn.wccftech.com/wp-content...gship-Desktop-CPU-Passmark-Performance-_1.png
 
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