• Competitor rules

    Please remember that any mention of competitors, hinting at competitors or offering to provide details of competitors will result in an account suspension. The full rules can be found under the 'Terms and Rules' link in the bottom right corner of your screen. Just don't mention competitors in any way, shape or form and you'll be OK.

Intel Core i9-11900KF 3.5GHz (Rocket Lake) Socket LGA1200 Processor - Retail

Status
Not open for further replies.
rog swift, or rog strix?
Out if interest, are those Passmark tables based on base clock as shown or something else? So say the 11900k OC's to 5.3ghz easily, will it be way ahead of the rest?

I doubt it's base. Would be default settings so single core max turbo freq. (Which many OCers will switch to all cores).

rog swift, or rog strix?

Strix. Corrected above.

What happened to your 6800 gpu

Never wanted one of those. No DLSS and sucky ray tracing. Waiting to see 3080 Ti before I decide what's next there.
 
Last edited by a moderator:
But you had one

Never used it. Sold it to someone else as I had an Xtreme coming and managed to get an interim Gigabyte 3080 from Europe. Still have a Rog Strix 3080 OC on backorder elsewhere too. About 30th in the queue now.

Why change your board at all, the XII supports PCI-E 4.0 with the latest BIOS.

Because the Maximus XII shares PCI-E Nvme bandwidth with the GPU slots. And also I released I don't need 10Gbit so flogging it while it's still worth something.
 
Last edited by a moderator:
Already proven not to be the case. Enjoy your overpriced space heater!

Unless intel are lying saying it's on average 11% faster in gaming than the 10900K then it should be a few percent faster than any AMD chip on average. As per the single threaded performance lead which tends to be key to gaming fps. We will see in about 11 days...
 
Weird that you want PCI-E 4.0 NVMe when it makes no difference in current games, and when Direct(I/O)Storage becomes a thing, it will be on all modern games that make use of lots of cores, which the 11900K won't do as well as the 10900K, so you lose with one hand and win with the other, it's like playing poker with yourself, you can only lose.

Of course it makes a difference. PCI-E 3.0 is bandwidth capped at circa 3.5 GB / Sec. Both my Nvme drives can do way over that on PCI-E 4.0. And RTX IO is coming soonish.

Fewer faster cores is better all other things being equal as you get better performance per thread and less context switching. Scaling across multiple cores for a game process is rarely linear.
 
Last edited:
Any drive that is faster will load most games faster but less benefit from an SSD to NVME than HDD to SSD but it make ZERO difference to gameplay or FPS.

You really do not have much a clue about anything you have said in this thread and I am an Intel fan (was AMD diehard back in early 2000's till Intel C2D).

Yes it will - level transitions and loads within games will be faster just like the initial game loading times are quicker. You clearly have no idea what you are talking about.
 
You see this character -----> 1, that took longer to type than the time any Gen 4.0 drive will save you loading any game currently available. However continue throwing money at everything, and spending the most on every component and that will give you more knowledge.

Still faster though isn't it. A few seconds off game loads and level launches many times a day is worth it to me. And as mentioned above Direct IO and RTX IO is coming which may give even larger benefits.
 
I have 4x 2TB Sabrent rocket plus in Raid 0 and it imperceptible compared to a high end SSD for loading times.

Good idea - will do that across 2 drives when I reinstall as anything I care about is backed up on NAS anyway. Every little helps. Faster disks make a measurable difference as per the above even if right now its not a vast percentage difference for game loading. It will be more noticeable for copying and installing though.
 
Last edited:
Considering Rocket Lake is effectively EOL, considering If its faster in games we would be looking at 1-3 FPS, Considering Intel tigged the NVME testing and considering 8 cores for £500+ i think i will stick with AMD at least till next year (probably longer)

Every CPU is effectively end of life in a year or so. That's only £80 more than a 5800X and if it's faster than seems reasonable. And let's see in ~ 10 days.
 
Every CPU is EOL in a year or so but not 6 months like Rocket Lake. At best i suspect 11900K will be on par with 5800x so i think based on that £80 is to much even if it managed to beat it by 1-3fps, also 5900x can be had for £540 if you shop around

Well then I will eBay it in 6 months. I did consider a 5800X or better but as I'm currently on 10900KF the transition path to Rocket Lake is easier, so I held off despite there being something faster for the last few months.
 
Yeah you've cherry picked those benches by quite some way. Post all the 1080P results and you'll see it paints a very different story. Not sure how you managed to miss that.

I'm deeply shocked that you've, completely at random ofcourse, managed to pick the only 2 1080p results the 11700K wins in out of the 10 games in that review. The 9900KS beats the 11700K at 1080P more often than not.

You've also hotlinked the graphs.


I picked the two FPS I knew at 1080P. Cherry picking is posting 720p and 360p results, lol.

I guess Borderlands and GTA5 are FPS too, but again those are going to be a 11900K win when you allow for the few percent faster over the 11700K:

I don't care about non FPS benchmarks for my use case.

https://images.anandtech.com/graphs/graph16535/121961.png

https://images.anandtech.com/graphs/graph16535/121993.png

**No Hotlinking**
 
Last edited by a moderator:
Testing at low resolution is offloading the work to the CPU rather than the GPU, if you want to test how fast the CPU actually is in games, not the GPU that's what you would do, in fact that what was always done, we didn't complain about that when Intel was faster, now that AMD are its suddenly a problem? Right.

No it's testing the total compute power of the CPU. If I cared about that I would get a 5950X. I care about performance at resolutions I might actually use.
 
tenor.gif


Keep moving those goalposts, and hotlinking.



That's interesting because Gears Tactics is not an FPS but you guess Borderlands is an FPS? Come on Dave, this is low brow even for you.

Oh my bad I was thinking it was Gears. Mental block. Still doesn't change that FPS seem to be faster on the 11900K though at resolutions anyone might actually use. And that's with pre-release microcode that was improved by several percent just during the testing period so will likely be further optimised.
 
Last edited:
I'm not suggesting testing at normal resolutions shouldn't be done, of course it absolutely should, but then why complain about CPU bound resolutions, some of us want to know how much headroom the CPU has, how they actually compare if only from an academic point of view, there can't be anything wrong with that?

Nothing wrong with that if that's what you care about, but suggesting that proves it's faster for gaming is somewhat disingenuous in that case.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Back
Top Bottom