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Nothing has been confirmed as of yet. People are basing it off AMDs history that they will not release a new chipset.
I don't think they've explicitly said, however they did explicitly say for the AM4 platform. AM4 will support up to Zen3 in 2020.
Point being since it's the same cores, just more bolted together, I see no reason why it would be different for X399. Also Zen+ is just a refresh on a matured 14nm process. Zen2 is the next 'new' one, on IBM's 7nm.
Actually it's based off them explicitly saying for AM4, and assuming X399 shouldn't be different.
+1, a Noctua D14/15 outperform all the 240mm AIO water coolers without question.
They are also significantly quieter, no idle pump noise to annoy you during media playback/work.
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Between 4.5-4.9 is what most should expect. It's fairly beastly
It will only be quicker when software can effectively utilise more than 4 cores.
Yes of course some existing software can but I highly doubt in the current Ryzens lifecycle we will get changes in software especially given Ryzen is a niche of a niche market.
yeah the 8 core and 6 core should have no issues going past 4.8ghz due to less cores creating less.
I think the fact we've got 10 cores capable of 4.8ghz+ is pretty epic tbh.
Once delidded and if you are happy 100c I may add.
Whats next 4.6?
I'm talking specifically non delidded, which is exactly what de8aeur got. although I do think we will see 4.9ghz without a delid on a half decent cooling solution, a custom loop or high end air cooler would run better temps than the AIO they were using
I'll personally be buying mine from silicone lottery since they upped their warranty to over a year.
The performance wether 4.5 or 4.9 is no doubt impressive on a multi core chip, we would be also impressed if ryzen was able to hit that which it will in time.
I'm wondering if what we are seeing is intel now hitting a wall, can they push these chips any higher? Perhaps not. Ryzen hopefully has more to come.
I'm wondering if what we are seeing is intel now hitting a wall, can they push these chips any higher? Perhaps not. Ryzen hopefully has more to come.
it's the last of Intel's 14nm chips alongside coffeelake) next year we have icelake on 10nm which is also going to be a new architecture as they leave behind the core architecture.
They've used thermal paste instead of solder in between the IHS and die on these ultra expensive chips, good luck cooling it with anything. It's crazy and makes me wary despite the performance.
I feel the clock speed is significantly more aggressive and power consumption higher than expected due to competition from Ryzen, which is a good thing for us. However, they used TIM because they just had to save some money given the "cheap" price they are now forced to sell these for. Also, games are still not very well optimised for Ryzen and I expect this will change.
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I suspect its more likely these chips were coming anyway,but probably with far less aggressive clockspeeds so Intel decided using TIM would be fine,but once Ryzen was released and Threadripper was shown off,they realised they needed to bump the clockspeeds up,so had to be more aggressive with voltage.
Just to add this from the leak on Videocardz on EPYC, current EPYC motherboards will be able to use the next generation of CPUs. So that lends even more credence to X399 going on for multiple generations
I'm not convinced. In open air on a cpu only bench I'm sure they do, but in a closed case with the gpu also under some load I'm not so sure, in particular if case airflow isn't great.
i agree but not in the way that you're thinking.
10/7nm over the next 5/6 years is going to give us the same kind of performance gains we've had for the last 10 years or so, aside from an architecture change giving ipc bumps here and there etc, its going to be fairly steady improvements.
what really peeks my interest is if we're going to see the end of x86 and new instruction sets used that are more efficient, x86 is, imo well overdue to be replaced, and Intel have hinted they've been looking at ways to move away from it recently.
also, if dx12 (ever) takes off, it could mean cpus essentially become redundant for gaming anyway, when looking at a game like sniper elite 4 for example which is one of the very very few games built on dx12 (not just had it added in like bf1 for example) even a g4560 was capable of pushing a GTX 1080ti to it's limit without bottlenecking the gpu, which normally doesn't scale past a GTX 1060.
the Xbox one x could be an indication of this, because they've managed to turn millions of draw calls into just dozens, which is the majority of the work the cpu has to do.