Intel Discrete GPU Codenamed Arctic Sound Will Have Gaming Variant, Landing in 2020

LeMson · 13 Apr 2018 at 07:10

As long as it mines well we can rejoice!

LoadsaMoney · 14 May 2018 at 20:31

3t3P · 14 May 2018 at 21:34

Larabee

Larawon't

Seriously if competitive would be awesome

FloatingPoint · 15 May 2018 at 03:52

AthlonXP1800 said:
Apple to dumped both Intel CPU and AMD GPU to design Apple own CPU and GPU designs for ARM based iMac due to launch in 2020.

If Apple actually do that it will be them that have a bad year, the move to x86 was instrumental in their recent success and a major factor in the subsequent adoption of the iPhone.

willhub · 15 May 2018 at 08:17

But will it r....... (Come on you know what I'm going to say)

MasterOC · 15 May 2018 at 09:23

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=um-1fAVU1OQ

sounds like a lot of the features would have been a godsend

Vince said:
Intel in the gpu market.. I'll give that one a miss, Intel just can't seem to do software so whatever comes of it will no doubt be crippled by utterly rubbish drivers.

I hope I am wrong though.

seems like there very capable with software from the ideas they were implementing , being able to have software emulate hardware at an API level can resolve some architectural headaches. although im sure there are further caveats

Rroff · 15 May 2018 at 09:26

MasterOC said:
seems like there very capable with software from the ideas they were implementing , being able to have software emulate hardware at an API level can resolve some architectural headaches. although im sure there are further caveats

Kind of proves both sides of the coin on that one - sure they can come up with some very advanced programming but their mentality towards it stands in the way of actually bringing an ongoing architecture to market of the type of support and development progress required for a consumer GPU.

Vince · 15 May 2018 at 10:12

Rroff said:
Kind of proves both sides of the coin on that one - sure they can come up with some very advanced programming but their mentality towards it stands in the way of actually bringing an ongoing architecture to market of the type of support and development progress required for a consumer GPU.

This tbh, Intel make really poor software, I know some ex intel software engineers and believe me Intel will need to up there game in order of magnitudes to compete. They have and always will be a hardware company so any gpu will be hampered by useless drivers. Remember SiS (Silicon Integrated Systems) Xaber series of GPU? Technically competitive GPU's from a hardware perspective seriously hampered by poor software and drivers, this is almost what I expect from Intel. I know I don't give them much credit but credit is earned and they haven't proven themselves with exceptional software ever.

Also watched that video last night and yes it all sounds pretty good but without it actually working it's just a paperweight of silicon and electrical parts a bit like the SiS card ended up being. Would be very interested to see that card doing its thing mind

sideways14a · 15 May 2018 at 10:33

They also lack a lot of patents that AMD and Nvidia hold for GPU design, without those its going to be hard to break into the discrete graphics field as a major player.

Samwell · 15 May 2018 at 12:03

sideways14a said:
They also lack a lot of patents that AMD and Nvidia hold for GPU design, without those its going to be hard to break into the discrete graphics field as a major player.

They have a better patent pool than even nvidia and amd. They have all AMD patents, because of the patent exchange with amd and all nvidia patents till 2017. It doesn't matter, that the patents aren't their own. They have the license to use them and won't have any problems in this regard.

Gregster · 15 May 2018 at 12:27

RIP AMD

Vince · 15 May 2018 at 12:30

Samwell said:
They have a better patent pool than even nvidia and amd. They have all AMD patents, because of the patent exchange with amd and all nvidia patents till 2017. It doesn't matter, that the patents aren't their own. They have the license to use them and won't have any problems in this regard.

I have no idea what this patent exchange is all about. They have a cross licensing agreement for x86/ AMD x64 but as far as i'm aware its not an open book on amd patents and this is the sort of thing I would probably hear about given I work for the firm that managed IBM/Global foundries transfer of IP. I very much doubt either company would simply open the book on their GPU IP to the other.

Vince · 15 May 2018 at 12:39

Gregster said:
RIP AMD

Nothing really that constructive to add then?

Gregster · 15 May 2018 at 12:49

Vince said:
Nothing really that constructive to add then?

I thought I was being funny but realised I wasn't..... I'll get me coat

Vince · 15 May 2018 at 12:53

Gregster said:
I thought I was being funny but realised I wasn't..... I'll get me coat

I dunno - I laughed just a little bit. I do think a card from the blue team would be good and there is no doubt that they have critical thinking and engineering capabilities in spades. What they don't have is a very good track record with software engineering and wrapping up hardware and software in one unified and well thought out package. Been wrong before and I hope that in a few years a GPU from the blue team might even be a thing

I also fully expect to be as disappointed as I was with the SiS gpu's (I bought the whole range to play with) back in the early 2000's.

sideways14a · 15 May 2018 at 13:20

Samwell said:
They have a better patent pool than even nvidia and amd. They have all AMD patents, because of the patent exchange with amd and all nvidia patents till 2017. It doesn't matter, that the patents aren't their own. They have the license to use them and won't have any problems in this regard.

Er i dont think thats right.

Kaapstad · 15 May 2018 at 13:22

My name is Robert Noyce does that make me good for a few intel freebees.

Gregster · 15 May 2018 at 13:23

Vince said:
I dunno - I laughed just a little bit. I do think a card from the blue team would be good and there is no doubt that they have critical thinking and engineering capabilities in spades. What they don't have is a very good track record with software engineering and wrapping up hardware and software in one unified and well thought out package. Been wrong before and I hope that in a few years a GPU from the blue team might even be a thing

I also fully expect to be as disappointed as I was with the SiS gpu's (I bought the whole range to play with) back in the early 2000's.

All good and I was originally joking and couldn't think of anything more appealing than a 3rd player competing for our hard earned. I could well imaging Intel struggling with the software side also but once they get that sorted, with their own fab already in place, I could see them being a good choice. Time will tell how much validity to this rumor is valid though and I genuinely would be surprised to see Intel enter the discreet GPU market.

LoadsaMoney · 15 May 2018 at 13:34

Gregster said:
RIP AMD

What again!

V F · 15 May 2018 at 14:21

FloatingPoint said:
If Apple actually do that it will be them that have a bad year, the move to x86 was instrumental in their recent success and a major factor in the subsequent adoption of the iPhone.

What the hell... It was bad enough the first time from PPC to x86. I remember the backlash.