Intel - Going Nowhere, Fast.

[Concrete]

Try iRacing. The rendering thread will have it begging for mercy.

Theres definitely some games where single thread performance is going to be a limitation, I guess when I encounter a must play title (for me) that will be what initiates my upgrade!

I think I saw you mention this before - do you mean a 3570k?

You are probably right, it sits in a Dell box under my TV for Steam streaming (and does a fine job). I can't overclock it due to the Dell motherboard so I haven't paid it a huge amount of attention!

 

[MagicBoy]

You are probably right, it sits in a Dell box under my TV for Steam streaming (and does a fine job). I can't overclock it due to the Dell motherboard so I haven't paid it a huge amount of attention!

I've done similar. Got a small form factor OptiPlex under the TV that runs Kodi, some light games and can Steam streaming from the X299 rig. Smaller than an Xbox One, twice as powerful and cost very little. With a 2500K & GT 1030 in it it's surprisingly capable.

 

[EsaT]

Some things, that were different but ultimately a good idea, people have come around to - other things were simply bad decisions by MS.

Removing the traditional start menu in 8 for instance was just stupid - OSes didn't evolve to that style by accident (and it was adopted by more than just Windows - in many cases before Windows did it). For a significant proportion of users the pop up menu atyle is simply the most efficient system for how they use an OS - just like for some users the system in 8 will be the most efficient for them (so implementing it isn't a bad thing in isolation) and for other users nothing will replace being able to efficiently search/filter by text.

Windows 10 is just bad - a few potentially great ideas, which could have been an evolution of how people use an OS, poorly implemented while a lot of useful/normal functionality is lacking, unfinished or fragmented and all too many areas that have a pants on head approaches that they are too stubborn to undo despite the obnoxious impact on the end user.

The increasing number of mitigations they are having to implement for things which weren't traditionally a problem until they made them a problem really should clue them into that they need a serious rethink.

Seach function directly in Start-menu is one of those actual improvements.
But those thinking all changes Microsoft have done are improvements should read this:
https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/ff728831(v=vs.85).aspx
Not much of things in GUI of Win10 not breaking that...
Ever since that MS Metro thing they've developed GUI like some adventure game!

While for some reason also OS patches seem to be now breaking functionality of other software/devices more than ever.

 

[EsaT]

Actually Intel is going somewhere fast...
That's breaking CPU power consumption records.

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/intel-28-core-processor-5ghz-motherboard,37213.html
We were originally going to witness the demo first hand, but there wasn't enough power handy to run both the chiller and the system simultaneously.

It starts looking more and more like Zen 2 might put Intel into second place position in most things.

 

[Rroff]

Seach function directly in Start-menu is one of those actual improvements.

For me it isn't particularly useful but I can see and respect from watching how other people use an OS that for some people it is a significant enhancement to how they work.

https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/ff728831(v=vs.85).aspx
Not much of things in GUI of Win10 not breaking that...

Yeah quite - it is something I've been banging on about for awhile - there are some tried and tested approaches like that documents for a reason and 10 ignores a lot of that - sometimes you do have to test why things are tried and tested and sometimes find improvements that have been overlooked due to archaic practises, etc. but also there needs to be some reason to it and a responsiveness to actual feedback when it doesn't work which is completely lacking with Windows 10.

 

[MagicBoy]

While for some reason also OS patches seem to be now breaking functionality of other software/devices more than ever.

Some reason being an insane obsession with 6 monthly rolling "feature" updates for an OS that launched only 12 months after firing 5500 staff, most of whom were testing engineers.

 

[EsaT]

Some reason being an insane obsession with 6 monthly rolling "feature" updates for an OS that launched only 12 months after firing 5500 staff, most of whom were testing engineers.

Yeah, earlier we end users were only beta testers.
Now we've been promoted to alpha testers.