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Intel has a Pretty Big Problem..

malachi said:
Nothing to really troubleshoot if everything runs at stock, passed memtest and the motherboard bios had been updated.
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Interested in how long it takes you to notice the first issues. Note that at "stock" many motherboards are unlimited and not intel defaults.
 
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mattyfez said:
My 13600k is and has been an awesome chip. Shrugs.
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I've had my 13700K from the first day they were released (October 2022) and since then it's been overclocked to 6.1Ghz boost 5.8Ghz all core @~1.40v and it's still running great at those speeds/voltage.

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About 6 to 9 months both times.

Sent the first one back after the first Intel recall. Went from COD crashing to hard crashes just on the desktop.

Had a spare CPU, some crappy Celeron from a test system. Zero crashes in the month I used it. Swapped backed to the 14900KS crashes started within a week.

Moved to 270K Plus now.
 
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malachi said:
About 6 to 9 months both times.

Sent the first one back after the first Intel recall. Went from COD crashing to hard crashes just on the desktop.

Had a spare CPU, some crappy Celeron from a test system. Zero crashes in the month I used it. Swapped backed to the 14900KS crashes started within a week.

Moved to 270K Plus now.
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I would move to the 270k plus as well if I had two cpu failures. At least you could use the DDR5 RAM with the 270k.
 
MartinPrince said:
I've had my 13700K from the first day they were released (October 2022) and since then it's been overclocked to 6.1Ghz boost 5.8Ghz all core @~1.40v and it's still running great at those speeds/voltage.

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Eesh... Flying by the seat of your pants there lol!
Although I think voltage control is the key here..
If you're over clocking and dialled in a fixed max (sensible) voltage I think you'll be fine.. It's when voltage is uncontrolled or on auto or whatever and it spikes to crazy levels you get trouble.
 
MartinPrince said:
I've had my 13700K from the first day they were released (October 2022) and since then it's been overclocked to 6.1Ghz boost 5.8Ghz all core @~1.40v and it's still running great at those speeds/voltage.

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Impressive ...Care to share your settings?
 
On my i5... (I don't think they suffered as much as the i7 and i9).

I overclocked it straight away manually, and aside from running hotter and using more power, the overclock didn't really translate into extra FPS in games much... Or at least not enough FPS gain for the 'cost'.

So basically since day 5 or something IIRC, I've been running an undervolt, via a negative voltage offset.. Without checking it never goes above about 1.375v and it runs cooler than stock with zero tangible loss in cpu performance, so I've left it at that ever since.
 
zx128k said:
I would move to the 270k plus as well if I had two cpu failures. At least you could use the DDR5 RAM with the 270k.
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Yep, it was too risky to get another 14900KS for the 3rd time.

Got the refund, sold the motherboard and got the Arrow Lake Refresh setup.
 
mattyfez said:
13th gen (raptor lake) and beyond, all use DDR5 anyway, maybe there's some DDR4/5 combo board but they are a fringe thing really.
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When I had my older 13th gen CPU, I had an DDR4 motherboard as I was coming from AM4. Then when DDR5 became cheap enough, I moved to DDR5.

Now I see it paid off :D
 
Itc said:
Very nice. Do you think it would be achievable with lower dram frequencies?
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The Dram frequencies don't really come into it, just as long as your memory is stable. It's mainly down to how good the silicon is on the CPU which is the luck of the draw. Then a decent/stable motherboard and bios.
 
MartinPrince said:
The Dram frequencies don't really come into it, just as long as your memory is stable. It's mainly down to how good the silicon is on the CPU which is the luck of the draw. Then a decent/stable motherboard and bios.
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I think you have won the silicon lotto ;) I will see what my 13700 can do when i have the time. cheers
 
mattyfez said:
Eesh... Flying by the seat of your pants there lol!
Although I think voltage control is the key here..
If you're over clocking and dialled in a fixed max (sensible) voltage I think you'll be fine.. It's when voltage is uncontrolled or on auto or whatever and it spikes to crazy levels you get trouble.
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:D Not really, it's using adaptive voltages so the majority of time it's using nowhere near 1.4v.

The 13900K/KS & 14900K/KS were imo bonkers CPU's and just a product of Intel's desperation at the time. 16 e-cores! Pfft! :) I told all my PC friends at the time to stay well clear and they all got 13700K/13600K and all of them are overclocked to varying degrees and all of them are still running great.
 
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Itc said:
I think you have won the silicon lotto ;) I will see what my 13700 can do when i have the time. cheers
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As far as the CPU is concerned the main setting I've posted that you need to play with are the Additional Turbo Mode CPU Core Voltage & CPU Load-line Calibration, making sure you're using Adaptive Mode.etc. (The System Agent and VDDQ voltages are used to stabilse memory)
 
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