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Intel has a Pretty Big Problem..

TrixP10 said:
but do you want me to list Intel's 'misteps' LMAO
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we aren't talking about missteps we are talking about why so many office PC's used intel and it was because they had a really reliable reputation and AMD were mostly an enthusiast hobby thing you have to be super cautious with when installing.

Intel lived on their reputation for probably a decade too long sure. but there are reasons outside of so called dodgy deals that gave Intel such a massive customer base
 
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arknor said:
we aren't talking about missteps we are talking about why so many office PC's used intel and it was because they had a really reliable reputation and AMD were mostly an enthusiast hobby thing you have to be super cautious with when installing.

Intel lived on their reputation for probably a decade too long sure. but there are reasons outside of so called dodgy deals that gave Intel such a massive customer base
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then you are too young to know or have some very rosy glasses.
 
arknor said:
yea but where did that reputation come from?

it came from Intel having fast and reliable CPU's

Didn't AMD CPUs back then have some kind of stone tile on them that could crack when you put the heatsink on?

old link for refference of AMDs reputation for chips that easily crack or get crushed

Do Athlon XP's have any problems with the core getting chipped/cracked?

Is the XP core stronger than the old t-bird core? Thanks.
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This was nothing to do with Intel's dominance.
 
TrixP10 said:
Well Robert, what's your take. "well it's broke but hypothectically we got a fix"

seems broke to me
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That's the way any consumer should treat it.

Given the new tech and scheduling issues and the fixes around I think it could perhaps be fixed.

But that means it needs the work actually putting in and the fix to really be possible.

If the price was attractive then it's a gamble i'd maybe take, but given you are already paying a rate for what it theoretically should be that's not good enough.
 
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Meaker said:
That's the way any consumer should treat it.

Given the new tech and scheduling issues and the fixes around I think it could perhaps be fixed.

But that means it needs the work actually putting in and the fix to really be possible.

If the price was attractive then it's a gamble i'd maybe take, but given you are already paying a rate for what it theoretically should be that's not good enough.
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let's hope that the 'scheduling fix' isn't the same as last time - having MS screw the OS in a way that fooks up everything else.
 
TrixP10 said:
"as Team Blue is determined to maintain leadership in the CPU markets".

wccftech.com

Intel To Reportedly Outsource More "Arrow Lake" Orders To TSMC; Team Blue No Longer Confident In Its Foundry Business

Intel is planning to outsource more of its Arrow Lake CPU orders to TSMC, as Team Blue is no longer confident in its foundry division.
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They were never designed to be made anywhere but TSMC, its a very weird flex to say we are making the CPU's we designed to be made at TSMC at TSMC.

Intel have not received a single penny from the Chips Act because it was contingent on results, results Intel failed to meet because they are too busy trying to maintain market share against AMD for products now designed by Intel but are made by a competitor the Chips Act is supposed to be combating. Of course they didn't get the money... Intel have demonstrated that when push comes to shove they will choose chip designer over chip manufacture.

This bizarre article looks like a threat to the US government that they too will turn to Taiwan if they don't get their corporate welfare payments, which they will use to design future generations of X86 processors. They are already primarily dependent on TSMC, they are threatening to do something they already have.

Intel need to be broken up, they can be a chip designer if they like, just not at the expense of manufacturing.

Also, they don't have a choice, Intel are contracted to make chips at TSMC if they can sell them or not.
 
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