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Intel Meltdown and Specter fixes hampering Intel's gaming performance?

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Amongst all the Ryzen 2### reviews horrorwood <credit to him, spotted something in the Anand reviews.

I'm not going to fill this thread with slides but a good example is here, Ryse of the Tomb Raider is usually Intel's performance win, and yet....

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That's a common trend with the Anand review: https://www.anandtech.com/show/12625/amd-second-generation-ryzen-7-2700x-2700-ryzen-5-2600x-2600

Could this be why?

We ran our tests on a fresh version of RS3 + April Security Updates + Meltdown/Spectre patches using our standard testing implementation.
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There has always been speculation about just how much of a performance hit Intel would be taking patching all the security holes in their CPU's, is this the answer?
 
What gpu are they using??

cause all I could find was this
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humbug said:
Canned benchmark vs actual gameplay? ^^^^
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From your website

Update: A number of comments have noted that some of our gaming numbers are different to other publications. To clarify, we used the latest ASUS 0508 BIOS (on X470), full Windows RS3 + updates, Spectre/Meltdown patches, and updated gaming titles. We are reviewing the data.


"Reviewing the data"
 
The gaming benches on that anandtech are complete crap far as I'm concerned.

Most reviews the 8700k is still the gaming king while ryzen 2 destroys it in a lot of productivity.

Some gaming results

 
Techen said:
From your website

Update: A number of comments have noted that some of our gaming numbers are different to other publications. To clarify, we used the latest ASUS 0508 BIOS (on X470), full Windows RS3 + updates, Spectre/Meltdown patches, and updated gaming titles. We are reviewing the data.


"Reviewing the data"
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Yes, they used The Intel security fixes, that's the point of this debate.
 
People please read the content of the thread before going crazy in it, Anand may have been the only ones who actually botherd to patch windows and update to the latest BIOS to fix Intel's security vulnerabilities, that may be the reason for the performance differences, as they themselves have pointed out.

Techen said:
So you agree these fixes gimp 80-90fps from tomb raider? If this was the case, Intel has some drama coming ;p
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How on earth did you arrive at that conclusion?
 
Radeon85 said:
Out of all the benchmarks so far anandtech is the only one to favour ryzen massively in gaming benchmarks.
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Not only that, but according to this anandtech 'review' Zen+ gained ~20% performance lead in gaming over Zen1 with only 200-300mhz clock bump in clocks and 3% ipc gains. :D Miraculous, I'd say. Bravo AMD.

..yet somehow ALL other sites don't show this increase.
 
Other sites like TPU also show 0% increase between the stock 1800X 3.6Ghz and an overclocked 4.2Ghz 2700X but at stock a small gain... other reviewers are also finding much higher gains than others.

This whole Ryzen 2 review is a mess, again with one review contradicting the next.
 
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