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Intel Nehalem Preview/Benches - Slaughters Core2

I think the biggest worry for Intel may well be Linux and other emerging CPU architectures. Why? Because different distributions of Linux support many different types of CPUs, meaning that unlike a Windows environment, a beefed up ARM processor (purely as a hypothetical example, if we wanted we could say Sun releases a DeskSPARC or something),

Although professional business support will not work like that. They must have a commercially supported platform. The more platforms the higher the cost to support.

Software Vendors will select and support only the platforms that their market use for their products.

So it's easy for software vendors to create a windows platform running on an intel platform. Why throw money away?

The more different platforms for Open Source, the more the effort is distributed and the slower it goes..
 
Are the apps in that review fully multithreaded? If they are, then for single threaded stuff it could well be slower than C2D.

I would doubt it, but those benches are very task rather than game oriented and when Conroe was released it was all about game benches.
I would think that Nehalem clock for clock will be at least as fast as current C2 chips however.
 
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apart from gfx card i spend £900 every 2-3 years and have no problem keeping up with software demands, other than crysis, which wont run on nehelam anyway

This way i get the best of the latest stuff, using overclocking to get more for free.

What do you mean by crysis wont run on nehelam anyway? do you mean this game won`t benefit much from nehalem`s speed? or did you mean it just won't run at all? and if so, where did you hear that?
 
Feel sorry for AMD this Xmas....

And its sad but we will always tend to go for the best price/performance ratio, perhaps this is where AMD can nudge it ;)
 
2% faster clock for clock SINGLE CORE performance increase? whys it such a large increase with all 4 cores loaded? because if you've run a quad, and run say 1 instance of super-pi, great, 2, not at all bad, basically same performance, 3 instances, very slight decrease, 4 instances massive hit to performance.

THe only increase in performance is scaling on the 4th core/instance of a program essentially. So the increase in speed will pretty much only be visible when all 4 cores are FULLY loaded. Which is ultra rare in anything non synthetic/home use. Encoding is always always going to gain the most by getting more cores. However, games, if they get the same 2% boost due to not maxing out 4 cores, would mean a several hundred pound chip, and expensive board, memory set up for triple channel(ie 6gigs of ddr3) means an incredible cost for very very little difference, if any noticeable difference.

Remember 99% of games right now play the same on a Q6600 at 2.6Ghz as at 4Ghz.


Its not a great chip, architechturally its just different really not faster, its simply a much better scaled setup in terms of core communication and bandwidth, which is great.

AS per usual, people doing heavy rendering work will love it, or encode all the time, but the majority of home users, gamings the biggest strain and I can't see there being a single benifit for a couple years. Cheap quad is where its at for 99% of the population right now, cheap these won't be for a whole setup.


Haven't Dell or HP shown largely due to this scaling, that recent Phenom systems of theirs are outdoing the Xeon quad's. Phenom's aren't bad at all, when they get the speeds up in terms of benchmarking they'll do pretty damn well as they do scale with speed better than your average chip. THe only issue is AMD simply not being able to switch to lower process's as quickly as Intel. 58 fabs, shut one down at a time for Intel to switch to 45nm, tiny production slow down. shut one of 3 fabs down for AMD, at a time they simply can't afford not to supply chips to customers, and they lose 33% of production. Thats the reason AMD aren't on 45nm yet, nothing more, nothing less.

Its the reason they are considering selling all the fabs, so they can simply change production to a different 45nm plant while others upgrade without cost to them. the other choice is building the billion dollar plant in New York they have approved(pretty much). Either way works, but selling the fabs gives them a huge increase in funds short term, while building another fab puts them further in debt, but increases value of company and long term profit outlook.
 
Feel sorry for AMD this Xmas....

And its sad but we will always tend to go for the best price/performance ratio, perhaps this is where AMD can nudge it ;)

A Phenom quad + 790fx setup is crazy cheap right now tbh, it suffers in theoretical performance and synthetic benchmarks which sucks as most of us couldn't notice the difference in real use. Needs to sort myself out with a phenom setup to play with again.
 
dunno if u have seen this but have a glance

http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/Intel-Nehalem,news-28410.html

basicly u can clock Nehalem :) nice to know lets just hope amd can catch up to keep them prices down

Also...

"The CPUs are quite mature and are running extremely cool (surprisingly cool actually), their clock speeds are being artificially limited by Intel in order to avoid putting all cards on the table at this time. We saw a similar approach with the very first Penryn samples which were all locked at 2.66GHz."

Quoted from page two of the original AnandTech article.

Im pretty dead certain OC'ing will be made possible.
 
As my previous response above but I didn`t get an answer to my question - Will crysis run on nehelam? or is there possibly a incompatibility with this game on this processor, and will need a patch released to sort it?

Thank you for proper response.
 
As my previous response above but I didn`t get an answer to my question - Will crysis run on nehelam? or is there possibly a incompatibility with this game on this processor, and will need a patch released to sort it?

Thank you for proper response.

Of course it will run on Nehalem. They must have meant it still wouldn't run smoothly on high settings or whatever, or were joking.

But i'm sure it will be playable at 1920x1200 with a GTX 280 + a Nehalem. I mean, i already get playable frame rates on my system @ 1650x1080 on Very High.
 
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Of course it will run on Nehalem. They must have meant it still wouldn't run smoothly on high settings or whatever, or were joking.

But i'm sure it will with a GTX 280 and a Nehalem. I mean, i already get playable frame rates on my system @ 1650x1080 on Very High.

Thank you!;)
 
Being completely honest no one can say for sure it will or won't run as none of us have a nehalem to play around with. We can say it should work alright and that there shouldn't be a problem running it but thats not a fact maybe there will be something that means it does need a patch. I love it when people get insistent about things that are not even out when all anyone can realistically give is a best\educated guess.
 
Come on... this is a CPU, and everything i've heard about it is that Intel are very happy even with the egineering samples, the chances of it not running Crysis are so stupidly remote that you may aswell say it's going to work. Because if it has trouble with a game, that uses the same programming langange as many other things, then it will more than likely have trouble with a ton of other software/games/OS's... and in that case, Intel would not release it.
 
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Ok you promise someone it will work and then if it doesn't they will come back on and **** you for it. Its the internet always play safe and always qualify comments in such a way you can't be held to it later on if it's wrong saves a lot of wiping the egg from your face time. If it isn't released you can never say for sure oneway or the other and anyone thats wants definates tell them to go look for themselves.
 
Crysis will run on Nehalem, same as other games run perfectly well on all new processors that get released by Intel and AMD, but as games nowerdays are more graphics card dependent, we mite see a little boost in gaming, but it won`t be much and notisable. If there is some problems with the game on serton new processor, then there will most likely be patch soon after to fix the problems anyways.
 
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