Intel plans to support FreeSync.

[Gregster]

From what i have read, the main reason why Nvidia cards cannot use Adaptive sync is because the Display controllers don't support it. Even up to the 900 series. And the main reason for the external controller in the monitor is to provide this support as well as frame doubling for when the FPS gets too low. So although i don't like Nvidias proprietary ecosystem, using an external control system was the only way they could provide support for a large gpu lineup.

AMD cards have had an Adaptive framerate ability since the 5k series, as they have supported internal Display Port features since then. just the Display controllers did not have the full capability on DGPU's. This is the reason why GCN1.0 parts only support Adaptive sync for video content etc and not full framerate control.

But it is good that intel are supporting the open standard for the future, even if their current hardware cannot run it.

Spot on. Nvidia catered for their own and they support far more GPUs because of the way they did it. G-Sync goes as far back as the 6 series GPUs off the top of my head, which is a very good and diverse thing.

 

[Mauller]

Now Gsync came out before freesync or even the open standard. So people who now own gsync monitors can only really keep using nvidia cards. This is being tied down! It's vice versa for Adaptive sync monitors also but that doesn't stop nVdia writing a driver to support it! Simples. but that would obviously make G Sync irellevent and not make nVidia as much money.

I mentioned the reason for the G-Sync module above, Unless they add the support for Adaptive sync in Pascals display controller, then they can't add support for it. It is not something that can just be enabled in drivers, it is a hardware limitation.

 

[shankly1985]

The main reason you invest in a "Gysnc monitor" is to use the feature. Just like when 3D was big. You could just get a standard monitor without this feature.

Now Gsync came out before freesync or even the open standard. So people who now own gsync monitors can only really keep using nvidia cards. This is being tied down! It's vice versa for Adaptive sync monitors also but that doesn't stop nVdia writing a driver to support it! Simples. but that would obviously make G Sync irellevent and not make nVidia as much money.

This is what shanks was getting at. I got it you didn't. And and sure even the mods will get it. So go report me as your post was just asking to look for trouble and start a argument. You got it well done. And also explained the locked down part which you don't want to get which is upto you but i know why you wont accept it because you openly hate anything AMD.

Agreed!

 

[thebennyboy]

Another thread down the pan, Dons really need to start cracking down on this.

On topic: Intel had no reason not to support adaptive-sync, will cost them very little to implement, give them another selling point for their products and benefiting the consumer. Win win!

 

[Gregster]

Not looking hard enough then I personally tested it and it works perfectly fine in the games I tested.

http://techreport.com/news/28602/catalyst-15-7-drivers-enable-freesync-with-crossfire

Cool and happy to be wrong on that

 

[LambChop]

The main reason you invest in a "Gysnc monitor" is to use the feature. AGREED - Just like when 3D was big. You could just get a standard monitor without this feature.

Now Gsync came out before freesync or even the open standard. So people who now own gsync monitors can only really keep using nvidia cards. WRONG -People with AMD can still use the monitor, just not the feature. This is being tied down! It's Not. It's vice versa for Adaptive sync monitors also but that doesn't stop nVdia writing a driver to support it! (It's not the same for AS monitors) Simples. but that would obviously make G Sync irellevent and not make nVidia as much money. The Gsync module works as it should.

This is what shanks was getting at. I got it you didn't. And and sure even the mods will get it. So go report me as your post was just asking to look for trouble and start a argument. You got it well done. And also explained the locked down part which you don't want to get which is upto you but i know why you wont accept it because you openly hate anything AMD. - More insults. Could you stop ?

Bolded my responses.

 

[ubersonic]

From what i have read, the main reason why Nvidia cards cannot use Adaptive sync is because the Display controllers don't support it.

Pretty much yeah, Nvidia looked into adaptive sync but decided against it due to compatibility so developed the G-Sync route, when it began drawing attention AMD got interested and followed in their footsteps which lead them to adaptive sync, with which they didn't have compatibility issue.

 

[r7slayer]

Bolded my responses.

how is that an insult, you have actually openly admitted you hate everything AMD and will never purchase anything AMD. If this is an insult then i feel some one is using too much cotton wool!

Anyways i cba, ill just leave you too it seen as your getting upset and hitting that report button.

It is a great thing that intel supported adaptive sync as it becomes more openly accepted the more traction it will get. Also i've seen Dota 2 run on the new source two engine on a intel IGPU with lots of AI and it ran really smooth on high settings. Now you can use adaptive sync with intel too this is great for gamers who play games like these! Amazing!

 

[Boomstick777]

Just makes sense that future monitor and graphics support an open standard to eliminate screen tearing. AMD / Intel and if only Nvidia would also do it. This would mean you could buy a decent monitor and be free to use your choice of graphics without being locked into a proprietary setup.

This would just make sense. If G.Sync was supported as well as an extra alternative for people who like to spend extra for what they perceive is the best than that's great for those guys. But at least have a standard that works across all hardware as default. Open standards ftw.

 

[ubersonic]

Another thread down the pan, Dons really need to start cracking down on this.

In all fairness the title was pretty bait-y (referring to adaptive sync by the name AMD use for their implementation of it, implying Intel were going to use something AMD developed).

On topic: Intel had no reason not to support adaptive-sync, will cost them very little to implement, give them another selling point for their products and benefiting the consumer. Win win!

To be fair, will it benefit their customers when their iGPUs can't get the FPS into sync range?

 

[Mauller]

In all honesty, besides an artificial Software lock, i don't see why the G-sync module can't work with any Display port output, regardless of manufacturer. Since the nvidia cards are just outputting a normal display port signal.

All i think that their controller is doing, is tying the monitors refresh to each Vanilla Display Port packet that is received. Which of course requires the extra hardware on the monitor end compared to adaptive sync to do this.

I base the above on the fact that the system works with cards that were out long before G-sync.

But usual vendor lock ins unfortunately.

 

[r7slayer]

In all fairness the title was pretty bait-y (referring to adaptive sync by the name AMD use for their implementation of it, implying Intel were going to use something AMD developed).




To be fair, will it benefit their customers when their iGPUs can't get the FPS into sync range?

Thier top end IGPU are actually quite good now and to be fair intel have only just adopted it so with how much progress they are making i wouldn't be surprised by the time they roll out support for adaptive sync they will have a even better IGPU by then. But yea you can't play AAA games on high settings or newer graphically demanding games that's for sure! You'll need to turn them settings down lol

 

[shankly1985]

Just makes sense that future monitor and graphics support an open standard to eliminate screen tearing. AMD / Intel and if only Nvidia would also do it. This would mean you could buy a decent monitor and be free to use your choice of graphics without being locked into a proprietary setup.

This would just make sense. If G.Sync was supported as well as an extra alternative for people who like to spend extra for what they perceive is the best than that's great for those guys. But at least have a standard that works across all hardware as default. Open standards ftw.

100% this

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[r7slayer]

Just makes sense that future monitor and graphics support an open standard to eliminate screen tearing. AMD / Intel and if only Nvidia would also do it. This would mean you could buy a decent monitor and be free to use your choice of graphics without being locked into a proprietary setup.

This would just make sense. If G.Sync was supported as well as an extra alternative for people who like to spend extra for what they perceive is the best than that's great for those guys. But at least have a standard that works across all hardware as default. Open standards ftw.

100% this

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+2 agreed

 

[pgi947]

Another potentially interesting thread ruined by semi-literate retards.

 

[LambChop]

Just makes sense that future monitor and graphics support an open standard to eliminate screen tearing. AMD / Intel and if only Nvidia would also do it. This would mean you could buy a decent monitor and be free to use your choice of graphics without being locked into a proprietary setup.

This would just make sense. If G.Sync was supported as well as an extra alternative for people who like to spend extra for what they perceive is the best than that's great for those guys. But at least have a standard that works across all hardware as default. Open standards ftw.

You have to remember these are businesses Boom. Nvidia have a product that works in Gsync. They are not going to give that up just so that everyone has the same features to use. These are incentives for buyers. Take a well established, well ran football team as an example. They are not going to replace their full team just so that their opposition has a fairer chance.

Personally If there was a monitor available that had features of Gsync and Freesync that would stop the moaners. With 82% of desktop gpu's sold by Nvidia, I dont see why that would ever exist or why Nvidia would even want to. They are a business.

Imo, open standards are not all they are cracked up to be. What if Intel wanted to extend/change that standard ? What if they wanted to implement their own version of the Adaptive Sync feature ? You would then have Intel and AMD with different versions. While I dont like the expense of Nvidia's Gsync, I like that it's proprietary, you know what you're getting.

 

[Marine-RX179]

Enough with this history lessons and theory on justifying on Nvidia's behalf. What's done with the existing products it cannot be helped, but if Nvidia doesn't make their future cards to support adaptive sync as well, they are only doing so for their own benefits not the users, with only the intension to tying their existing users to provide them with repeat customs. It is simply this.

 

[ICDP]

http://jonpeddie.com/publications/add-in-board-report

You are looking at IGPU's and seeing that as the final value. You need to look into the AIB boards for the correct GPU figures.

No I (we) don't need to look at those pointless AIB stats (in the case of Adaptive Sync). You are making the mistake of assuming the only consumer demographic interested in Adaptive Sync are gamers. The fact that Intel ONLY make iGPUs should be the big clue here.

The vast majority of desktop/laptop devices use iGPUs. With Intel supporting adaptive sync, a massive incentive for monitor manufactures to include it as standard just became reality.

 

[Gregster]

People seem to be missing what Mauller said earlier, which he was spot on with and that is that current Nvidia GPUs can't support the Freesync monitors, so instead of Nvidia sitting back, they did what was best for their customers and jumped on G-Sync FPGA modules that are needed for current and past Nvidia GPUs to work.

Call Open Standards as much as you like but if Nvidia didn't jump on G-Sync, Nvidia users would still be gaming with stutter and tearing and would be a year or so behind AMD users whilst they sorted it out on the GPU end.

Intel gamers are being catered for now, which is good but don't shoot Nvidia down for doing something for their customers....Again!

ICDP - We have Intel computers at work but not one of them is used for gaming and used for work only, so counting those as you are is silly!

 

[fs123]

Intel are not adopting Freesync, they are adopting the VESA standard.

Sigh..
Since research is lacking here....AMD is the one who got Adaptive sync into the DP1.2a VESA standard, hence why Freesync is using the VESA standards and Intel will be too. Intel may not call their tech Freesync but I don't see why not since it's license free and they will be able to advertise Freesync capability for their GPU's.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/jasonevangelho/2014/05/12/amds-project-freesync-gets-momentum-as-adaptive-sync-gets-added-to-displayport-spec/

Q: Is DisplayPort™ Adaptive-Sync the industry-standard version of Project FreeSync?

A: The DisplayPort™ Adaptive-Sync specification was ported from the Embedded DisplayPort™ specification through a proposal to the VESA group by AMD. DisplayPort™ Adaptive-Sync is an ingredient feature of a DisplayPort™ link and an industry standard that enables technologies like Project FreeSync