Intel to Cut Prices of its Desktop Processors by 15% in Response to Ryzen 3000

B1gbeard · 7 Jul 2019 at 15:54

Stephanie Peterson said:
And people buying home pc's is a far smaller number than what goes into businesses and such.
Gamers are not the biggest pc market.

But they will be the biggest market for people buying 9900k's or equivalent. That's what we are talking about.

Locky · 7 Jul 2019 at 16:03

nhornby51743 said:
'Everything but gaming'.......the main thing that PC users do.

It destroys the 9900k in everything and is only about 5% slower in games. I call that a win..

nhornby51743 · 7 Jul 2019 at 16:43

B1gbeard said:
But they will be the biggest market for people buying 9900k's or equivalent. That's what we are talking about.

Exactly lol.

nhornby51743 · 7 Jul 2019 at 16:46

Locky said:
It destroys the 9900k in everything and is only about 5% slower in games. I call that a win..

It is a win, if all you do is use benchmarks for bragging rights.

I would rather go for the 9900k, at a similar price point, then get worse all-round frames for gaming.

People really don't care for synthetic benchmarks as much as AMD fans would have you think.

Stephanie Peterson · 7 Jul 2019 at 16:51

The 9900 is so close to the 3700x and will no doubt be identical to the 3800x when its finally reviewed - i dont know why you would want the poorer older less secure and power hungry intel platform.
Ok the overclocking side is the only bit still up in the air, i dont think we have seen the full story yet with that on Zen2.

humbug · 7 Jul 2019 at 16:52

nhornby51743 said:
It is a win, if all you do is use benchmarks for bragging rights.

I would rather go for the 9900k, at a similar price point, then get worse all-round frames for gaming.

People really don't care for synthetic benchmarks as much as AMD fans would have you think.

Not Synthetic, real world workloads and sorry but the 3900X humiliates the 9900K, average about 40% faster with 30% less power.

It's close enough for it to make no real difference in games too.

DragonQ · 7 Jul 2019 at 17:10

R7 3800X is basically DOA, anyone considering it can either (a) save a bunch of cash and get the R7 3700X, or (b) should just get an i7-9700K for less money if gaming, or (c) should get an R9 3900X if doing productivity.

humbug · 7 Jul 2019 at 17:24

DragonQ said:
R7 3800X is basically DOA, anyone considering it can either (a) save a bunch of cash and get the R7 3700X, or (b) should just get an i7-9700K for less money if gaming, or (c) should get an R9 3900X if doing productivity.

I would throw in (c), the game bencharcks are done at 1080P with a 2080TI, Its a 10% difference between the 9900K and 3700X, if all you do is game with anything less than a 2080TI it's not going to make the blindest bit of difference if you're using a 3900X a 3700X a 3600, or a 9900K.... so if you have an RTX 2080 or less why not just the £190 3600?

nhornby51743 · 7 Jul 2019 at 18:15

humbug said:
Not Synthetic, real world workloads and sorry but the 3900X humiliates the 9900K, average about 40% faster with 30% less power.

It's close enough for it to make no real difference in games too.

It really isn't, people said the same about the 2700x.

Any good reviewer will tell you that whilst AMD is a good option, if you want the best of the best for gaming, go for Intel.

Also, the 3900x is more expensive than the 9900k in a fair few places.

Stephanie Peterson · 7 Jul 2019 at 18:20

Except if you look at the big picture that few % intel wins by is blown out the water by the AMD platform being newer, more feature packed, more secure and using less power.
Even if your just gaming that surely is more of a benefit than a few pointless frames a second that i bet most folk will never spot.

StriderX · 7 Jul 2019 at 18:25

nhornby51743 said:
It really isn't, people said the same about the 2700x.

Any good reviewer will tell you that whilst AMD is a good option, if you want the best of the best for gaming, go for Intel.

Also, the 3900x is more expensive than the 9900k in a fair few places.

Only if they can pony up $1000 for a GPU, almost literally no one has that kind of system, it's a mega niche and extremely disingenuous to the vast majority who can't afford it.

And if they can afford it, they aren't playing at 144p at 1000 fps either.

humbug · 7 Jul 2019 at 18:28

nhornby51743 said:
It really isn't, people said the same about the 2700x.

Any good reviewer will tell you that whilst AMD is a good option, if you want the best of the best for gaming, go for Intel.

Also, the 3900x is more expensive than the 9900k in a fair few places.

The 9900K certain was and remains "the best for gaming" there's no arguing with that and i agree if you want the best gaming you get a 2080TI and pair it with a 9900K.

Having said that surly you would agree that's not the be all and end all, that the best of the best... that's all that matters, end of story shut the #### up.

There is a veritable pallet of gray, if all you're interested in is gaming then why even bring the 3900X into it? the 3700X has identical performance in games at the same clock speed, the 3900X is for people who game and work, the 3700X is much cheaper.

Look there is a reason a lot of reviewers now are recommending Ryzen CPU's even for gaming, the 9700/9900K are a bit of a one wonder pony, now that Ryzen 3000 is out, its the one to have if you game at 1080P with an RTX 2080TI, that's what its great for, anything less than those specifics its no better than the 3700X, or even the 3600.

Ryzen, especially the 3900X is the master in all else. What gives Intel any relevance at all is reduced to just that one specialty.

nhornby51743 · 7 Jul 2019 at 18:41

humbug said:
The 9900K certain was and remains "the best for gaming" there's no arguing with that and i agree if you want the best gaming you get a 2080TI and pair it with a 9900K.

Having said that surly you would agree that's not the be all and end all, that the best of the best... that's all that matters, end of story shut the #### up.

There is a veritable pallet of gray, if all you're interested in is gaming them why even bring the 3900X into it? the 3700X has identical performance in games at the same clock speed, the 3900X is for people who game and work, the 3700X is much cheaper.

Look there is a reason a lot of reviewers now are recommending Ryzen CPU's even for gaming, the 9700/9900K are a bit of a one wonder pony, now that Ryzen 3000 is out, its the one to have if you game at 1080P with an RTX 2080TI, that's what its great for, anything less that those specifics its no better than the 3700X, or even the 3600.

Ryzen, especially the 3900X is the master in all else. What gives Intel any relevance at all is reduced to just that one specialty.

Lol, you agreed with my comment then said STFU lol.

'One wonder pony' in the most important factor when deciding a cpu.

30k posts, as well, I've noticed the majority of those people who comment negatively towards my posts are people who spend a lot of time on this forum.

These are the same types that think Gibbo is a friend, and not a shrewd businessman who inflates prices, because he knows his blindfully loyal clientele will pay them.

muon · 7 Jul 2019 at 18:53

nhornby51743 said:
It is a win, if all you do is use benchmarks for bragging rights.

I would rather go for the 9900k, at a similar price point, then get worse all-round frames for gaming.

People really don't care for synthetic benchmarks as much as AMD fans would have you think.

If you say so.

https://blogs.forbes.com/antonyleather/files/2019/04/CPU-revenue-2.png

And that's with the 2xxx series which I'm sure you've looked down on an dismissed.

humbug · 7 Jul 2019 at 18:53

nhornby51743 said:
Lol, you agreed with my comment then said STFU lol.

'One wonder pony' in the most important factor when deciding a cpu.

30k posts, as well, I've noticed the majority of those people who comment negatively towards my posts are people who spend a lot of time on this forum.

These are the same types that think Gibbo is a friend, and not a shrewd businessman who inflates prices, because he knows his blindfully loyal clientele will pay them.

You're massively over stating their importance.

Enthusiast level Gamers are a fraction of the PC market, of those who spend more than £200 on any individual component are a fraction of that fraction, the people who buy RTX 2080TI's are like 10% of 10%

Most PC Gamers buy 1050TI's to RTX 2070's if not APU's, those people are not buying £500 CPU's, that's why AMD sell far more Ryzen 5's than Intel do i7 and i9.

muon said:
If you say so.

https://blogs.forbes.com/antonyleather/files/2019/04/CPU-revenue-2.png

banbom44 · 7 Jul 2019 at 19:13

Looks like the new AMD chips are not the 9900k killer they were made out to be im glad only bought mine in march and all I do is game and watch Youtube so a few extra cores would have been useless to me.

StriderX · 7 Jul 2019 at 19:14

banbom44 said:
Looks like the new AMD chips are not the 9900k killer they were made out to be im glad only bought mine in march and all I do is game and watch Youtube so a few extra cores would have been useless to me.

Killer? lol maybe on a few fake wccf articles.

No one was saying it was going to beat the 9900k much (except for maybe a few outrage youtubers or whatever), if at all in gaming.

humbug · 7 Jul 2019 at 19:15

banbom44 said:
Looks like the new AMD chips are not the 9900k killer they were made out to be im glad only bought mine in march and all I do is game and watch Youtube so a few extra cores would have been useless to me.

What you mean is in games, they were never made out to be, the 3900X does however kill the 9900K in productivity, often by large margins.

CAT-THE-FIFTH · 7 Jul 2019 at 19:15

Why are some of you argueing with these very low post count posters? Its the same at every launch. They want to big up a £450+ CPU being like 10% faster than a £330 CPU,since they don't want Intel to drop prices by 15% as it makes they CPUs worth less secondhand when they sell them. The same with other CPU launches in the past,or GPU launches. They want companies to charge more for stuff,so big every 1% up as life or death.

For even people wanting to buy an Intel CPU,having AMD releasing Ryzen 3000 is a good thing as it should help push pricing down - they don't want that.

nhornby51743 · 7 Jul 2019 at 19:17

humbug said:
You're massively over stating their importance.

Enthusiast level Gamers are a fraction of the PC market, of those who spend more than £200 on any individual component are a fraction of that fraction, the people who buy RTX 2080TI's are like 10% of 10%

Most PC Gamers buy 1050TI's to RTX 2070's if not APU's, those people are not buying £500 CPU's, that's why AMD sell far more Ryzen 5's than Intel do i7 and i9.

I find that strange as I'm definitely not overly well off by any means, although I have responsibilities, and priorities, and can still afford to buy new tech, such as i7, and RTX. I honestly would see myself as fortunate in that regard.