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Intel to drop overclocking for mainstream Nehalems

WillSpengler said:
Maybe some in the enthusiast market, just because they need to be able to tinker . . . even when the tinkered version they had would still be poorer than the stock intel ;)
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That’s a very good point totally slipped my mind :o Say if the Nehalem processers that don’t overclock are 30/40% quicker than the AMD equivalent not many would move to AMD to 'tinker', Intel seem to be very cleaver here it seems ;)
 
Wouldn't surprise me at all. Now if you want the quickest computer you spend £140 on a Q6600 and buy a good mobo. This nets Intel far less money than if you bought a QX chip and an average mobo.

As already mentioned, it will not hit their OEM sales at all, and I would be surprised if they lost a great deal of money from the enthusiasts. If the quickest chips are Intels, then people will buy them, even if they cost upwards of £500. If 5 enthusiasts buy a £500 CPU each, Intel will make as much money as if 50 people buy a £50 chip each. As long as their chips remain faster than AMD's, they will maintain their sales levels. I don't really see how they stand to lose. Most enthusiasts will move to AMD, but those that remain will be buying exceptionally expensive chips.
 
if people will be forced to pay higher premiums for performance rather than spending less and ocing then i see the frequency of sales going down as not many people will want to pay 500+ on a regular basis
 
the frequency of OC'ers and enthusiasts will go down.

But thats a drop in the bucket of intel's market.

Most people only upgrade because they are hitting limitations with what they have, buisnesses will upgrade long before they hit these limitations.
 
they have always wanted to stop overclocking since they locked the multipliers on all none-"extreme" CPUs - its just that people who overclock make up less than 1% of their sales so there is no point properly cracking down on it - if they wanted they couldve probably stopped FSB overclocking a long time ago.
 
NathanE said:
Does not surprise me at all. Intel wanted to do this with the Pentium 3 and Pentium 4 except the competition at the time was too great.

Now that competition has effectively drooped to its lowest level in probably 15 years Intel can afford to behave more monopolistic.
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I agree also, really doesn't surprise what they are doing, losing the overclocking crowed isn't going to dent them hardly at all.

And the main reason why ? because not only are we a small minority but we also buy into the low spec CPU's, look at it from a business point of view, your trying to sell a £1000 CPU to a bunch of enthusiasts that are clocking £45 jobbys to the same speed, faster in-fact, I really hate what their planning on doing but if I was in their shoes I'd be doing the same, hopefully this will give AMD a chance to take control of the enthusiasts market again, personally I'm sticking with Intel though, I've been using gen Intel M/B and CPU combo now for nearly 20 years.
 
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fothsn said:
A load of cobblers, it will dent Intel big time if they put some sort of prevention to stop overclocking, doesn’t make sense.
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Not read any of the thread so this has prob been covered but it won't dent Intel one jot. Enthusiasts are a very small segment of their current market.

Like they give a stuff about overclocking and enthusiasts.
 
chrissss said:
If the intel CPUs still outperform the amd counterparts, people won't go over to AMD.
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I'd get AMD if it performs better overclocked.

Intel is getting cocky (sweary?) although I'd argue they never really supported overclock unless it's an extreme version with unlocked multi.

They've not changed their policies on overclocking it's just that now the northbridge is on the chip they can finally enforce it. Hopefully mobo manufacturers have ways to go around it.
 
NathanE said:
Does not surprise me at all. Intel wanted to do this with the Pentium 3 and Pentium 4 except the competition at the time was too great.

Now that competition has effectively drooped to its lowest level in probably 15 years Intel can afford to behave more monopolistic.
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Agreed - they can also settle back and not attempt to push R&D so hard, in the short term this helps with the economic crunch but in the long term..
 
It would be nice to have a limited series of CPUs that were unrestricted while the remainder remained restricted for OEMs - Id pay a small premium for that ability but the Extreme series is just way too pricey...

Majority of overclockers rather save a buck and get something they can overclock to a decent level then get an extreme - if Intel charged for that privilege I cant see how anyone would really lose out...

With their current business model it seems that most people will reluctantly stay with Intel until AMD do something better - if Intel release a few choice CPUs unlocked then it would satiate people and keep them with Intel for longer...

ps3ud0 :cool:
 
There are less people who buy the high end rip off chips than people that overclock surely.

Stupidest thing a company has ever done, i hope AMD beat their ass to pieces if this is even half true. Stupid because more people bought low-mid end chips to overclock them to high levels without paying the premium of faster chips, thus intel will lose money as they likely make more on the least expensive cpu's.
 
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It's not particularly stupid of Intel - means they will be able to sell chips with higher profit margins to the enthusiast market. It's a pain in the ass for us, but it makes good business sense.

Consumers are fickle creatures, and unless AMD's mainstream effort has enough overclocking headroom to beat its Nehalem counterpart on both price and performance , the vast majority of enthusiasts will suck it up and pay Intel to get the best performance they can afford.
 
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Zarf said:
It's not particularly stupid of Intel - means they will be able to sell chips with higher profit margins to the enthusiast market. It's a pain in the ass for us, but it makes good business sense.

Consumers are fickle creatures, and unless AMD's mainstream effort has enough overclocking headroom to beat its Nehalem counterpart on both price and performance , the vast majority of enthusiasts will suck it up and pay Intel to get the best performance they can afford.
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AMD are not that far behind Intel on clock for clock comparison so if AMD improve their forthcoming CPU's and decent overclocks are to be had then I wouldn't be handing Intel my money.

Even today if Intel locked out overclocking I would move to the Phenom. I like to tinker around.
 
J.D said:
Good news for AMD ;). If Intel are going to threaten all of us who love to tinkle around with our PC's and push hardware faster than it's meant to go then AMD will get our money. Simple as that. I'm not bothered about this in the slightest. If Intel want to do this then fine, AMD will get my cash :p.
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totally agree with ya ;)

AMD For The Win ! :p
 
im wondering why people think overclockers are so important it will hurt intel to stop overclocking, im willing to bet about 97% or so of intels profits are made away from the enthusiast market, so why would they give a damn that a tiny tiny tiny percentage of the market is gonna jump ship? hell the whole fact overclockers get lower end chips and overclock them to hell proberbly makes the enthusiast market relatively unprofitable, least this way they force people to buy higher end models for higher clock speed, rather than just overclock, makes sense if you think of intel less as a friend who lives next door, and loves you, and cares what happens to you, and think of them more like well...a company with profit and growth in mind
 
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