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Intel to launch 6 core Coffee Lake-S CPUs & Z370 chipset 5 October 2017

DragonQ said:
How does one actually compare these scores to other CPUs? The website is pretty much a mess. This has always been a benchmark that Intel has beaten AMD soundly in though, so your comment without context is pretty disingenuous...but you knew that already. The i7-7700K probably beats the R7 1800X in this benchmark.
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Yeah website are absolutely nightmare to search results, I am not going to bother waste 1 hour to search results on other CPUs. :o

I did a quick google to find 7700K, Ryzen 7 1800X and 8700K results ID in videocardz screenshot:

7700K

Score 448.58Mpix/s
Multi-Media Integer 584.99Mpix/s
Multi-Media Long-int 209.36Mpix/s
Multi-Media Quad-int 2.35Mpix/s
Multi-Media Single-float 514.82Mpix/s
Multi-Media Double-float 299.72Mpix/s
Multi-Media Quad-float 11.77Mpix/s

http://ranker.sisoftware.net/show_r...d5e2d2e0d0e8d8fe8cb181a7c2a79aaa8cffc2fa&l=en

Ryzen 7 1800X

Score 462.31Mpix/s
Multi-Media Integer 567.91Mpix/s
Multi-Media Long-int 169.15Mpix/s
Multi-Media Quad-int 3.80Mpix/s
Multi-Media Single-float 553.54Mpix/s
Multi-Media Double-float 314.31Mpix/s
Multi-Media Quad-float 14.44Mpix/s

http://ranker.sisoftware.net/show_r...d5e3daead9e0d8fe8cb181a7c2a79aaa8cffc2fa&l=en

8700K

Score 658.57Mpix/s
Multi-Media Integer 858.27Mpix/s
Multi-Media Long-int 305.21Mpix/s
Multi-Media Quad-int 3.46Mpix/s
Multi-Media Single-float 747.52Mpix/s
Multi-Media Double-float 445.21Mpix/s
Multi-Media Quad-float 17.26Mpix/s

http://ranker.sisoftware.net/show_run.php?q=c2ffcee889e8d5e2d2e0d0e6d2f486bb8badc8ad90a0865f0&l=en
 
Jono8 said:
Anyone else think this is really rubbish if true

http://www.guru3d.com/news-story/intel-core-i7-8700k-benchmarks.html

Can't even beat a 1600x in multi threaded stuff and in single threaded stuff it isn't even that great considering it is supposed to boost to 4.7ghz!

Either there is something wrong with the cooling in that omen pc he was using meaning it wasn't turbo boosting to 4.3ghz all core or 4.7ghz one core.....or it is a bit of a lame duck.

I will be honest, I was expecting this to be getting over 200 for the single thread score and pushing 1500 in multi..
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I watched Karl Morin youtube video and noticed he ran old versions of Cinebench R15 and CPU-Z, he should never run other programs while running Cinebench R15 benchmark because it will affect scores so that why it had bad scores and also he should used latest versions, not the old versions.

Accorded to Ryan Strout:

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https://twitter.com/ryanshrout/status/907280680207503361

So take Karl Morin's early 8700K scores with a grain of salt.
 
https://videocardz.com/72511/msi-z370-motherboards-pictures-and-possible-pricing

Cheapest $159 CAD (around £118 inc VAT) MSI Z370-A PRO motherboard with 6 phase power look much better and cheaper than cheapest £121.99 MSI Z270 PC Mate motherboard aimed for business solutions lacked phase power. Also cheaper than £162.95 AM4 MSI X370 Gaming Pro Carbon AMD X370 motherboard which has 8+2 phase power.
 
gavinh87 said:
I never said ryzen has the IPC of kaby lake. I think you are in this thread for the hell of it.
Ryzen, so powerful no developer can harness it lol.
It's also Microsofts fault.
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Depend what part it is Microsoft's fault. Is it whole Microsoft's fault? No. Is it Microsoft's DirectX 12 fault? No. Is it Microsoft's Xbox division fault? Yes. The Xbox division designed and developed Xbox consoles.

Developers been explored everyday for the last 12 years since 2005 to find ways to fully harness PS3's 8 core Cell CPU, Xbox One, Xbox One S, Xbox One X, PS4 and PS4 Pro's AMD Jaguar 8 core APU with no success, they never managed to maxed out 8 threads in games. The same thing happened to PC too with 6+ core CPUs since Bloomfield and Bulldozer.

Until now developers may finally got answer why they cant harness powerful CPUs like Threadripper with up to 32 threads.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-07-...phics-in-nano-technology-breakthrough/8724546
http://science.anu.edu.au/research/...-promises-ultra-fast-graphics-gaming-consoles

Copper wires on consoles, graphic cards and motherboards PCB are bottlenecked by GPU and CPU, copper wires need to be replace with nano optical wires so developers can finally harness CPU properly with lots of threads to push GPU frames higher to maximum.

Probably will be few years before we see next generation consoles, GPU cards and motherboards start to use nano optical wires.
 
MyBrains said:
x264 on the CPU for best quality stream, tried all other methods in endless hours of testing, Twitch 6000kbps bitrate limit and x264 wins every time.



No argument really, only at higher bitrates is where the gap closes :)
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I don't know why people stuck with x264, not x265/H.265/HEVC on either CPU or GPU for superior quality stream. I did endless hours, days, weeks of tests with all methods and settings found Nvidia NVENC H.265 has same image quality as CPU H.265 on slower setting at same bitrate. Encoded Star Wars: The Force Awaken Blu-ray on NVENC H.265 at 6000kps bitrate took about 16 mins but encode on CPU H.265 never get done because it estimated to complete in 10 hours then it increased to 15 hours, 24 hours etc so I dont bothered encode it on CPU as it take forever no matter how many cores. I tried encoded 117MB Star Wars: The Last Jedi MPEG4 trailer on NVENC H.265 took amazing 6 secs to compacted 22MB at 1500kbps bitrate, CPU H.265 encoded took about 16 mins both GPU and CPU encoded had same image quality of original trailer which used higher 7308kbps bitrate. I read lots of interesting things about next generation AOMedia AV1 codec and tried encoded x264 and H.265 at 300-500kbps for fun but image quality was horrible blurred with artifacts. Encoded it with AV1 at 300kbps would see very clean image quality at tiny 7MB file size that will put x264, x265 and HEVC codec to shame.

http://www.streamingmedia.com/Artic...ard-Joins-Alliance-for-Open-Media-117634.aspx
https://www.elecard.com/news/results-of-elecards-latest-benchmarks-of-av1-compared-to-hevc
https://www.elecard.com/videos

Twitch 6000kbps bitrate on x264 is tiny compare to Crowd 1080p AV1 stream at 93962kbps around the quality of 4K Ultra HD Blu-ray bitrate.

Been watched AV1 test samples on Elecard Player blew me away with amazing image quality at very low and high bitrates, it is the only player at the moment capable to decode AV1 playback.

Compare Sintel trailer encoded in AV1, H.265 and H.264 at 300kbps bitrate:


Cant wait to use AV1 when software and browsers will have it enabled around Jan 2018 when AOMedia freeze AV1 codec experiment and release final version by 31 Dec 2017. :D
 
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jigger said:
Do you just trawl the internet looking for Intel news? If so see if you can find UK retail prices please.
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I cant find any UK retailers price yet as all removed prices from list.

Here are Intel official price in US dollars and I converted it to UK pounds at $0.34 exchange rate to get rough idea what price look like on 5 October if exchange rate still stand at $1.34 or above as US dollars weaken.

i7 8700K $359 = £320 inc VAT
i7 8700 $303 = £271 inc VAT3
i5 8600K $257 = £229 inc VAT
i5 8400 $182 = £162 inc VAT
i3 8350K $168 = £150 inc VAT
i3 8100 $117 = £104 inc VAT

Lab501 review is the best one I ever see, damn impressive 8700K and 8600K games performance, overclocking and temp.

Look like Coffee Lake CPUs will be overclocker dreams, i5 8400 will be very interesting to read because it cost about £162 that could put expensive Ryzen 1600X, 1700X and 1800X to shame in games benchmarks. :)
 

Wow Gigabyte AORUS Ultra Gaming motherboard look amazing with extra RGB lights on PCI Express slots, memory slots and on top and side of chipset. Look better than ASUS ROG MAXIMUS X HERO so I might get one depend on price, it could be the first time upgrade to Gigabyte Z370 motherboard in 20 years since my first custom PC build with Gigabyte GA-5AX motherboard in 1997. :)
 
Doop! said:
I'm pretty sure it's this week. There's a UK retailer with z370 motherboards in stock already, they're coming up on a google search.
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Yeah I checked it out, ouch at Gigabyte Z370 Aorus Gaming 7 price and very surprised Gigabyte Z370 Aorus Ultra Gaming is about £80 cheaper than Gaming 7.

Hmmm tough decisions to choose Z370 motherboard.
 
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