Intel Xeon servers.. opnions?

inspiredJohn said:
heres some specs..

Server Intel Xeon Quad Core X3330
Tower Chassis, 1X Quad Core X3330 2.4Ghz 1066FSB, 4GB DDR2 800Mhz, 3x 500GB HDD's Supporting Raid 0,1,5,10, DVD-RW

Server Intel Xeon Quad Core X3440
Tower Chassis, 1X Quad Core X3440 2.4Ghz 1066FSB, 8GB DDR3 1333Mhz, 3x 500GB HDD's Supporting Raid 0,1,5,10, DVD-RW

whats the consensus on these 2?
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These are roughly equivalent to the Q6700 and Q9650 desktop processors, which means you're essentially considering hardware from 2008. Unless they're very cheap, and only to be used for file serving or maybe an SBS box for a ~25 user site, I'd be looking at something a bit more modern and powerful, personally.

Just as #Chri5# asked; what do you need them for?
 
No mention of what sort of disks and RAID controller that are being used?

On the info given I'd agree that I'd use a box like that for a small SBS install maybe, if that, but not much else. I wouldn't want to use those for much more than a handful of people.

Why should someone use one of your built boxes rather than purchasing one from HP/Dell etc complete with all the support you get from them?

What makes you stand out as a choice for people to make over them?
 
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#Chri5# said:
Ah, yes.



Just ask one of your engineers John... ;)
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Yeah i can do quite easily. BUT i wanted to know what you guys thought. My engineers are'nt responsible for the hardware thats put on the site they actually deal with IT maintenance contracts etc after work is sourced.
When it comes to the actual shop we run thats my responsibility mainly. Im glad you guys found us hope you had a good look around. Let me know your thoughts.
Servers etc is stuff im learning about all the time. My background is really business to business and IT sales but it is my company.
We're working with a leading uk manufacturer/supplier so can get anything thats asked for.
 
Ev0 said:
No mention of what sort of disks and RAID controller that are being used?

On the info given I'd agree that I'd use a box like that for a small SBS install maybe, if that, but not much else. I wouldn't want to use those for much more than a handful of people.

Why should someone use one of your built boxes rather than purchasing one from HP/Dell etc complete with all the support you get from them?

What makes you stand out as a choice for people to make over them?
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good question. People should consider buying from us as we provide a level of service and support that you would expect from a larger organisation, but with less of the frustrations that can sometimes occur.
We're a "one stop shop" for SMEs and larger organisations and offer full support for an IT infrastructure, we have a fast turnaround on all goods and services and operate regionally and nationally.
Core principal is aiming to provide a service you would expect to recieve yourself. Now i don't know about you, but you don't always recieve that from larger organisations like Dell but rest assured you will from us.

Theres also kit on the site today that is exclusive to us but is beginning to make big waves.
 
Thank you for your opnions on the servers guys, and sorry mods if i pushed it a little bit there as well. Id try and get away with it by saying its my 1st day but that was monday.
:P
 
s0ck said:
those are sata drives, yeh? :D
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LOL i put SATA just because there was'nt any specific brand manufacturer
Of course i know what SATA is. I had to google it, cross reference it with Wiki, double check with 3 technicians, contact our overseas director, double check on other forums but then it was confirmed and now i know. SATA IS A LEADING BRAND MANUFACTURER OF HARD DRIVES. :p*

*im taking the **** :P
 
I think the problem you might have is just how stupidly cheaply Dell sell their single socket boxes.

I'm in pre-sales for a tier 2 server vendor and while we're mostly known for big internet/cloud customers and HPC, there's a big push into the SME market through the channel. It might be worth taking a look at our kit and then you'll be able to get something that can differentiate from the usual HP/Dell/IBM stuff.
 
inspiredJohn said:
heres some specs..

Server Intel Xeon Quad Core X3330
Tower Chassis, 1X Quad Core X3330 2.4Ghz 1066FSB, 4GB DDR2 800Mhz, 3x 500GB HDD's Supporting Raid 0,1,5,10, DVD-RW

Server Intel Xeon Quad Core X3440
Tower Chassis, 1X Quad Core X3440 2.4Ghz 1066FSB, 8GB DDR3 1333Mhz, 3x 500GB HDD's Supporting Raid 0,1,5,10, DVD-RW

whats the consensus on these 2?
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My dual xeon homebrew box has more redundancy and power?

Seriously, this sort of tin shoud not go into offices for production work, if i had a tenner for everytime ive removed and binned "no name tower servers" id have about...1,2,3...9 many lots...about a meeeellion quid ;-)

Dev and test only tin IMO.
 
Have to say, I don't know which company you're running but if I was a customer, knowing you were getting my servers specified on an Internet forum would have me running for miles.

Servers aren't hard. What's hard is understanding your NFR's (non-functional requirements).

What performance is required?
What uptime is required?

Then, there's the functional requirements:

What applications are to be hosted?


The answers are likely to give so many variations, that you will need multiple configurations of servers. Some may be built for storage capabilities, others with lots of RAM, some with only one cpu, others with lots. Some might not even be x86. Some might be blades in a farm.

I don't see how anyone can answer such a non-specific question...
 
I feel utterly sorry for anyone who ever falls foul of this guy's "services".

It would seem he causes the kinds of mess that I end up having to sort out by introducing proper kit and knowledge.
 
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