Interstellar rant

Hype, Hype and more hype. Akin to mavity...

Watched the Film....

Slightly but not utterly disappointed, very obvious "ending" a little cringe worthy in parts.

I think the whole technical accuracy of the "sciencey parts" is there just there so there can be a circle jerk afterwards.

Ill have to rewatch it because i dont remember it being beautiful or amazing or anything majestic...Maybe i can appreciate it more 2nd time around on a smaller screen.

Murrrrrrph Murppppppppppph!!!!!!!!
 
I guess ranting over the science inaccuracies of Interstella is similar to ranting over the physical impossibilities of pretty much any Fast and Furious film. :)
 
I know Michael Caine has by law to be in every Christopher Nolan film, but, I mean really.

And, like, LOVE. And, Hey you set my field on fire and Imma kill you, and WHOA IS THAT A WATCH.
 
I loved interstellar, but I found it difficult to suspend belief fully because:

a) I guessed the whole postergeist twist thing immediately. I mean pretty much as soon as she mentioned it. In a film claiming such traditional sci-fi pedigree there was only ever going to be one cause.

b) time dialation around a blackhole is not a constant, it's a gradient. There is no magical line outside of which time is 'normal' and inside time is dialated. Time is always relative, and I was hoping the film could have been more accurate in that respect. The whole 'time as a resource' had such potential, and I feel it was wasted.

But it was a great film nonetheless and I'll probably buy it when it drops in price a little.
 
Hype, Hype and more hype. Akin to mavity...

Watched the Film....

Slightly but not utterly disappointed, very obvious "ending" a little cringe worthy in parts.

I think the whole technical accuracy of the "sciencey parts" is there just there so there can be a circle jerk afterwards.

Ill have to rewatch it because i dont remember it being beautiful or amazing or anything majestic...Maybe i can appreciate it more 2nd time around on a smaller screen.

Murrrrrrph Murppppppppppph!!!!!!!!

mavity was vastly superior for me - as long it you saw it in IMAX 3D. It was just so focused with only the 2 characters, sharp, gripping, beautiful....everything Interstellar wasn't. Not that I think Interstellar was that bad.
 
b) time dialation around a blackhole is not a constant, it's a gradient. There is no magical line outside of which time is 'normal' and inside time is dialated. Time is always relative, and I was hoping the film could have been more accurate in that respect. The whole 'time as a resource' had such potential, and I feel it was wasted.

Can't think how it implied that it wasn't a gradient...?
 
all theory until proved correct is bs.

no one knows anything about blackholes or anything about space.


film was okay until the blackhole bit.
 
I know Michael Caine has by law to be in every Christopher Nolan film, but, I mean really.

And, like, LOVE. And, Hey you set my field on fire and Imma kill you, and WHOA IS THAT A WATCH.

Not to mention this 124 year old man that isn't given one question about his ordeal nor do any of his family seem to give one **** that he even exists.

I gave this film 10/10 after first viewing it. I was taken in, the visuals were incredible the story was gripping. It has been somewhat easy to pick apart though. It's still a great film though.

I'm fairly certain that quote of nolan above must have him confused between the wormhole and the tesseract. If the wormhole closes then the ending makes no sense whatsoever. Although maybe...

To make plan A work Alfred said he would need to solve the equation, well Murph's magic watch solved the equation so presumably they can complete plan A without the wormhole? If that's the case perhaps taking entire ships is just slower than a small one. Although if that was the case wouldn't you send a dozen small ones to start helping Anne straight away? It's a load of bull the ending when you think about it. Even with the wormhole there they would surely have sent a preliminary team to help her out rather than her first human contact being the entire world all at once :p
 
There's absolutely no way you're going to go to another galaxy with out some sort of shortcut like a wormhole. Not going to happen.

On a separate note, does anyone know if it's possible to still see Interstellar on the big screen. Do IMAX cinemas show older movies again? Massively regret not seeing this at the cinema now. :(
 
Firstly I thouroughly enjoyed the film and was quote happy with the cross between fiction and fictional science.
The bit that did grind me a little was the ending when he went to meet girl again, although I suppose they didn't actually show him arriving there, only what she was doing having got there.
I struggle to see how time would have worked so they weren't years apart in age. He went in the black hole, fiddled with books and popped out when the deed was done apparently many years later (relative to his daughter). She surfed around the edge of it and then went off to see if the guy she loved had died... She must also have aged considerable before he got there.
 
Not to mention this 124 year old man that isn't given one question about his ordeal nor do any of his family seem to give one **** that he even exists.

Actually that makes perfect sense when you think about it further.....

without actually watching the end again, it's implied that he's helped through time again (via el futuro humans/black hole/mavity stuff) to go and be with Hathaway. At that point as any episode of Star Trek involving time travel(and dozens of films and other shows) they would know what happened to him, but they wouldn't want to interact with him too much. He was effectively helped there just to be able to say goodbye to his kid and her to him. It's possible that for instance they know he will die in 20 years while building the colony, before they make contact back through the wormhole again. So if they sent him straight to Hathaway he'd never talk to his kid again.

So they sent him to the future to say goodbye, but they couldn't let him know he was already dead, or maybe he didn't die, and they made contact, but again it was a case of a guy out of time and not telling him anything that would change their own time line. Also the reason for only bringing him to her at the end of her life, because any earlier would have changed her life too much.
 
Firstly I thouroughly enjoyed the film and was quote happy with the cross between fiction and fictional science.
The bit that did grind me a little was the ending when he went to meet girl again, although I suppose they didn't actually show him arriving there, only what she was doing having got there.
I struggle to see how time would have worked so they weren't years apart in age. He went in the black hole, fiddled with books and popped out when the deed was done apparently many years later (relative to his daughter). She surfed around the edge of it and then went off to see if the guy she loved had died... She must also have aged considerable before he got there.

As previous post I just made, I took it to mean the future humans effectively pulled him out of time in the first place to send him to the future to see his kid, they can pull him back. Beings with more dimensions seeing time as non linear, they had him in that universe and used that whatever the heck the thing was to allow him to perceive their universe in three dimensions... this means he was in 'their' universe.

I mean the kid went from what 10 or whatever she was when he left to what, 40-45 just by going to a planet on the edge of the black holes time shifting effect... just being nearer to the black hole would have meant she was long dead by the time he left it's effects, I figured time travel was the only way this made sense. Though also I guess... meh, as I think about it. She went pretty far into the black hole as well so she would have been moving 'slower' as compared to people on earth. So maybe the trip into the black hole and out and to the planet left her at the same point in time as his kid being on her death bed, so maybe just a case of travelling. I kind of thought he stole the ship to fly back to the black hole to let them send him back to her.

Okay, i've talked myself into two theories. They pulled him into their universe and could basically decide what point of his universe to plonk him back down in. Or their last trip into the black hole simply sped up time outside so the kid got stupid old, she travelled to the new planet almost the same age but what 80 years in the future for everyone else, then them playing around with mavity around him also protected him from the time changing effect(where all they would need to do is work out exactly at what point to stop letting mavity/time dilation effect him to keep him roughly at the same amount of time Hathaway was experiencing.

Probably the latter... as it seems easier and involves no direct time travel.

Meh, I'm stupidly tired. There are several potential explanations
 
Oh yeah, one thing I don't get is: Cooper and Brand went close to Gargantua, so time slowed for them and his daughter aged, but when he was sent back through the wormhole he was able to interact with Brand by putting his hand through the glass, so that means he went back in time to the point when they were traveling through the wormhole.

Then when he pops out, he actually didn't go back in time, so his daughter is old. Why then does he see Brand and himself traveling through the wormhole?

One of the rules of the movie is that only mavity can travel through time, not matter (though then I don't know how he is able to see his daughter if no light can travel through time...).
 
can some one tell me that if they had the tech and resources to build those biosphere's/spaceships, why didn't they just build the biosphere's on earth which was still a lot safer place than space
 
can some one tell me that if they had the tech and resources to build those biosphere's/spaceships, why didn't they just build the biosphere's on earth which was still a lot safer place than space

Could be for a few of reasons I guess.

1. No matter how you spin it, the earth will only be around for a finite amount of time. Once the sun dies, that's it for our solar system. Maybe they figured they may as get humans to start the journey they will inevitably need to take one day.

2. The beings themselves are not capable of time travel. They cannot just travel back in time and fix the earth. They have managed to build a timeless teserract, from here Coop can use mavity (which apparently can traverse time) to leave Murphy clues.

3. Everything you see in the film is what had to happen to lead humans to their future point. If they did anything else (built a biosphere, lead them to a different galaxy with no black hole etc) then the future will not have turned out how it did and the future beings may not have been capable of helping present day humans. It's kind of the "Whatever happened, happened" theory of time.
 
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I vaguely remember it....what I always wonder is...

Our future selves, knowing that they need to get Murph to use the tessaract to influence himself and his daughter to start off a series of events that would result in Murph going into space (to use the tessaract...etc...) and for his daughter to sort out the spacestation thing.

How do our future selves know this? It seems clear to me that the future selves who can control 5 dimensions, mavity and black holes must be from a much further ahead future than the future murph finds himself in...with his daughter on the space station.

I'm not much of an educated mind but to me I know in theory time is looping but there must be a point when the loop starts for the first time. That first time - in which I assume murph was unable to influence himself to go into space so he could get to the tesseract and his daughter to solve the puzzle and create the spacestation.
 
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