Poll: iPhone 4 problems thread

What problems are you having with your iPhone 4? (multiple options are allowed)

  • None

    Votes: 98 30.8%
  • Display (generally this is the yellow splodges)

    Votes: 37 11.6%
  • Antenna (poor signals when holding the phone in a certain place)

    Votes: 193 60.7%
  • Other (specify)

    Votes: 38 11.9%

  • Total voters
    318
Well, I just called Applecare regarding my yellow blotches (bottom left and right of the screen) which are only really noticeable on a white screen. I also mentioned dropping signal and she booked me in to see a genius at Bluewater on Friday to exchange it for a new one. No mention of the yellow disappearing in a few days use, just 'we'll exchange it' which is nice, but means a 30 mile round trip which is a bit of an inconvenience...

Can you not just turn up in store and exchange it, she said you need an appointment which seems crazy?
 
Just watched a BBC breakfast piece on this. Apple say the normal signal is shown as higher than it actually is, and holding it in a certain way just causes the signal display to lower. Yeah, right, pull the other one Steve! I really feel for those who have this issue, utter rubbish from Apple treating customers like mugs.

Sent from a tightly gripped HTC Desire...



Seen that myself, was pretty amusing and even the presenters seemed to think it was bs. Seen some other threads that seem to think if it was legit then apple have been spoofing their signal strength to silence complaints about the signal issues on iPhones. If that's true then it's another strike against apple it would seem.
 
In the orange shop today I had a played with a unit.

The signal would not drop! Not during finger over the ridge, then tried normal grip, then the death grip! No change!


I had to check it was a real phone!
 
In the orange shop today I had a played with a unit.

The signal would not drop! Not during finger over the ridge, then tried normal grip, then the death grip! No change!


I had to check it was a real phone!

It probably just had a nice strong signal. The 24db drop might not have dropped it past 5 bars. :)
 
Just finished a frustrating phone call with a work colleague who has an iphone 4 (I was using an iPhone 3G).

It started off OK then all of a sudden I couldn't hear anything. He'd hit the mute button or something with his cheek because the proximity sensor wasn't working properly and left the screen on.

He took mute back off and after repeating everything I had said for the last minute or so, I started hearing beeps. He had turned the keypad on with his cheek and was pressing numbers.

After he took it off the keypad screen, he put it back on by accident a few minutes later.

I wonder how many other people this is happening to. Also the End Call button is pretty large so people must be hitting that by mistake as well.

For the record, he was holding the phone the "Apple approved manor".
 
For the record, he was holding the phone the "Apple approved manor".

I googled "Apple approved manor" and this was the best result :

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I think the problem is everyone has been supplied with the left handed iPhones! Hopefully a right handed version is just around the corner!

Sent from my iPhone 4 held with the fingertips of my left hand to avoid signal drop!
 
Anybody else suffering the proximity sensor issues then? Looks like the thread started on the Apple discussion forum is rapidly increasing, yet there is no acknowledgment from Apple regarding the problem, nobody really knows whether a software fix is even possible!

I feel that replacing the phone with another one will make no difference, I really don't fancy taking a pointless 120 mile round trip to the trafford centre store. :(

So annoying!
 
Oh noes, O2 swapped my iPhone due to dust flying around under the camera lens, but the replacement unit (brand new sealed box) has a loose camera connection or something...

1 times out of 50, it works all the time!

The rest of the time I get the closed shutter image and nothing happens... at all...

O2 will swap it again, but currently out of stock of the 16GB. 3rd time lucky!
 
When I looked online, most cases were with older 3G / 3GS, but some 4s also... seems the camera module has a loose hardware connection but I'd say it's not that widespread. At least O2 said they hadn't seen that before.
 
Just had a thought about Apple's announcement in regards to the signal. The claims that the algorithm is incorrectly showing a 2 bar signal as 5 bars.

Lets think about that for a second, and think of the scenarios.

1 – They are right. That for the iPhone 4, and 2 bar signal is incorrectly shown as 5 bar, and that I am actually in an area of low signal.

Then explain why my other phone in the same area is showing as 5 bars too on the same network? And if the area I am in is an area of low signal for the iPhone 4 but strong signal for my other phone. What does that say about the new iPhone 4's reception ability? Utter turd?

2 - And If I am in an area of apparent strong signal to other phones but weak signal to the iPhone 4, what happens when I am in an area of weak signal? It stays at 2 bars? Or will it drop off all together?

3 – Will the iPhone 4 ever get a full 5 bar signal after the next update? Or will you only get that if you stand under a mast?

If sounds to me, rather than mask the signal strength bars/graph to artificially hide a weak signal, which would be the logical thing, they are doing the opposite. This gives them a way out, but shower the signal weak than it actually is. So when it drops out, they can just blame it on the bad reception in your area.

Clever Apple.

But I guess we will find out in a few weeks.
 
Is anyone suffering with dropped calls?

I find with my phone on my desk, or most placed round my flat for that matter I get anywhere from 1 to 3 bars, but last night during a call I sat on my sofa looked at my phone to see full signal, despite fully covering the edges of the phone.

Mine hasn't dropped any calls yet though I haven't been in any low signal areas.
 
Just had a thought about Apple's announcement in regards to the signal. The claims that the algorithm is incorrectly showing a 2 bar signal as 5 bars.

Lets think about that for a second, and think of the scenarios.

1 – They are right. That for the iPhone 4, and 2 bar signal is incorrectly shown as 5 bar, and that I am actually in an area of low signal.

Then explain why my other phone in the same area is showing as 5 bars too on the same network? And if the area I am in is an area of low signal for the iPhone 4 but strong signal for my other phone. What does that say about the new iPhone 4's reception ability? Utter turd?

2 - And If I am in an area of apparent strong signal to other phones but weak signal to the iPhone 4, what happens when I am in an area of weak signal? It stays at 2 bars? Or will it drop off all together?

3 – Will the iPhone 4 ever get a full 5 bar signal after the next update? Or will you only get that if you stand under a mast?

If sounds to me, rather than mask the signal strength bars/graph to artificially hide a weak signal, which would be the logical thing, they are doing the opposite. This gives them a way out, but shower the signal weak than it actually is. So when it drops out, they can just blame it on the bad reception in your area.

Clever Apple.

But I guess we will find out in a few weeks.

Read the Anandtech article and you'll realise what's actually going on.

By touching the bottom left corner it increases the signal attenuation by 24dB. The range of possible signal is represented in an uneven way such that unless you are on 5 bars then a 24dB drop is enough to make the phone completely lose all signal.

The software fix will just change the range of signal strength that each bar represents.

They are definitely not going to under represent the true signal strength just to save face on the design flaw.
 
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