Iphone apps

[TW]Fox

[TW]Fox

[TW]Fox

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Every day we see another high profile organisation offering its customers free iPhone apps.

You can do your banking with Natwest, you can test the performance of your car with BMW, you can shop online with Asda, etc etc etc.

Where are all these apps for other, arguably superior handsets? They dont exist. Because nobody bothers developing for them. Because Mr Average buys an iPhone because... its an iPhone.

HTC could release the worlds first perfect handset and charge a tenner for it and STILL most people would buy the iPhone as its more than a phone, its a must have fashion accessory.

So in the meantime, everyone else who excercised choice rather than following the crowd is in a situation whereby the app support is just not as good.

I wouldnt mind if this was because they had chosen a technically inferior platform, but arguably its not.

One day we'll all have to buy iPhones and put up with the inexcusable shortcomings just so we can actually use applications.

:(
 
A good SDK and large user base makes it a lucrative platform for people to write applications for.

I wish LloydsTSB released an application...

I like my iPhone because it just works and is refined and as a result, I won't be upgrading come March. I had an S60 Nokia N95 beforehand and I think Nokia's UI is awful, dated and looks like it was written by a chimp.

Maybe that or I've lost the passion of having the "latest and greatest" hardware and gadgets.
 
While I hate Apple products, I do have respect for their Marketing department.

Nobody know what RSS 2.0 Audio is, but everyone knows what a Podcast is
Nobody knows what an Axillary Device Input is, but everyone knows what an iPod connection is
Nobody knows what a Capacitive Touch Screen Mobile Communications Device is, but eveyone knows what an iPhone is.

Its about being cool and trendy rather than actually any good. Seen as I dont need a style device to try to justify my existance on this planet, I dont let it bother me. If anything it provides humor when people get told that the 'uber cool modern awesome new feature' of their Apple product, has actually been around for years, and cheaper.

Just wait untill the iPhone gets the ability to multitask. It will be the greatest invention ever. Regardless of the fact people have been doing it on Symbian devices since.... forever.
 
I don't understand whats so bad about wanting to have a fashion accessory? It looks good, everyone knows what it is and it does everything I need....

I guess it depends what circles you live in. I'm material and like to look good the iPhone also provides excellent functionality :)

Brands is a big part of everyday life. I was at a coca cola marketing conference recently and the marketing director for them said that if by some freak accident every coca cola producing factory was destroyed or their supply chain collapsed and they had to start from scratch building it up (i.e. taking years) they would survive and not have a problem.

If however by some freak accident everyone in the world lost their memory and forgot about the coke brand then its questionable and highly unlikely that the coke product would not survive.

It's what makes the world goes round! just enjoy it and don't worry about it :P
 
Whilst I would like more Apps for the Hero I still like the fact that I can pull it out and it makes the girls gasp!

Your 'ten a penny' iphones don't do that any more because every **** has one :D
 
G|mp said:
Whilst I would like more Apps for the Hero I still like the fact that I can pull it out and it makes the girls gasp!

Your 'ten a penny' iphones don't do that any more because every **** has one :D
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Are you sure you're pulling out your hero? :eek:
 
If the Iphone didn’t have the Apps Store then it wouldn’t be where it is today. All these phones we are hearing about which could be the ‘Iphone killer’ and never turn out to be even close.
We all know that the HTC, the Nokia N series, etc are far more superior than the Iphone in terms of hardware but software from 3rd party devs aren’t supporting them enough. Until that happens then the Iphone will remain where it is. Same can be said for Nintendo with the Wii and DS.
 
G|mp said:
Your 'ten a penny' iphones don't do that any more because every **** has one :D
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This!

I cant see apple being able to bring anything substantially new to the table for there next phone either!

But people are fickle and will simply lapup the next iphone because its 0.5mm smaller/thinner.

I applaud Apple for there marketing genius though, no other brand has managed to come back from the brink of obscurity to being one of the largest consumer brands on the planet.
 
Shador said:
I don't understand whats so bad about wanting to have a fashion accessory? It looks good, everyone knows what it is and it does everything I need....

I guess it depends what circles you live in. I'm material and like to look good the iPhone also provides excellent functionality :)
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Thats great and I'm happy for you.

This is not really what the thread is about. It's about the iphone selling by the bucketload for all sorts of random reasons, some of which are very valid, but the end result being everyone elses phones get... no apps.
 
People will develop for the popular platform.

Why the platform is popular is irrelivent, if its popular, it will get the premium apps.

Altho, y not just get a phone that does decent web browsing and use the proper Natwest website?
 
Skeeter said:
Just wait untill the iPhone gets the ability to multitask. It will be the greatest invention ever. Regardless of the fact people have been doing it on Symbian devices since.... forever.
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Exactly what im waiting for then possibly ill get one and at the same time get shafted up my backside by apple and which ever network i decide to go for:(. Along with a better battery life as well..at the moment ill wait and see what the new iphone will bring to the table if anything that is.

Funnily enough my youngest bro has the iphone 3GS and has plenty of apps on it which keeps him amused for hrs on end...i say good for him but personally id rather have a phone that is useful for me...not the other way around...i mean hes harping on about some stupid messaging app called whatsapp...similar to the Blackberry messenger that you get on BB's so you can now message your iphone buddies to your hearts content...should have seen his face when i pulled out my pair of BB's and downloaded the exact same app for my devices...bam pow right in the kisser sucker is what i said to him. See my personal opinion is that whatever the crapphone...ooops i mean the iphone can do the BB can do better....mind you the web browsing isnt so great on the BB's but thats not really an issue...it does me perfectly fine. Also what makes me laugh is that the iphone with this whatsapp app is trying so hard to be like a BB....its no wonder that when im out and about i see more and more people brandishing BB's rather than iphones....heck even Apples targetted group ie teenagers are opting for BB's now. Over in America Apple and iphone are losing a boatload of ground to the BB's and other devices ie the Motorola Droid for instance.

Dont get me wrong the iphone is a pretty good device for what it does ie not a lot in all honesty but until Apple smarten up their idea of a smartphone and stop trying to shaft consumers with a product that isnt really all that, i wont be touching one with a bargepole.
 
I think it's more the fact that Apple have jumped all over this with the App store and othe rmanufacturers haven't really noticed how big this could be for their products, I mean Nokia have had an app store for a long time but they never really bothered with it.

The likes of SE/Nokia (I think) don't seem to like developers making things for their phones, there are plenty of sites out there for Nokia/Ericsson phones but theyh really ar niche sites because the vast majority of Ericsson/Nokia users don't know those sites exist.

I am however going to get an Iphone in May when I can upgrade, I will not bother with the apps or anything like that, all I want is the wi-fi feature on the phone and unlimited data available on the tariff.
 
This is one of the times I actually whole-heartedly agree with you [TW]Fox.

I have a Nokia E71, and although symbian is very well-supported in terms of apps (and was before the iphone), it doesn't attract the high profile companies with arguably the best and most useful ones. A large majority are made by enthusiasts and only small companies. It would be nice to get the best apps on this platform too, and I don't mean a lightsaber and all the other rubbish that seems to attract the iphone.

Having said this, with Skype, Messenger, Joikuspot, Opera, Google Maps etc on my phone, I really have little need for any more. My phone isn't to amuse me, it's something to use when I need it.

My bank have actually got a mobile site now, so you can do your banking through a browser, and a lot of the apps you see like that on the iphone, although better presented, are essentially a front end to do something that was already possible.

I'm at the point where I won't get an iphone on principle as I hate the way it's marketed, I hate the price, I don't like the touchscreen keyboard, I hate most of the pointless apps, the glaring omissions in the feature set, the extortion that is repair costs. I could go on, but if one day they release a reasonably priced handset that's better than my E71 (or phone at the time) I might be tempted.

For now, I'm staying as a function over form guy.
 
Janesy B said:
http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=18098511

Just works eh? ;)

The iPhone excells at everything except for being a phone. Several people with iPhones bitch about it's basic phone functionality, dropped calls, poor reception etc.
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I've honestly never had this problem though, even though I'm aware that others have. I get more signal and 3G coverage than my house mate who has a Nokia phone on Orange (unsure of handset).

Only gripe I have with my phone is push email killing battery life.
 
[TW]Fox;15669855 said:
Thats great and I'm happy for you.

This is not really what the thread is about. It's about the iphone selling by the bucketload for all sorts of random reasons, some of which are very valid, but the end result being everyone elses phones get... no apps.
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The iPhone isn't the reason other platform gets no apps though.

The application store is very well refined, easy to navigate and search. People usually buy iPhones because they've been iPod users (that's the case with me) who as a result - know iTunes and how it works.

Nokia PC Suite was an awful application which required some effort to work, you plug the phone in, select a connection mode of the phone, get a warning that the memory card can't be used whilst connected blah blah blah.

With the iPhone, you just plug it into your PC and it Syncs with no hassle at all. The Application app on the phone is just as easy to find apps with as it is using a full screen iTunes.

The only reason I can think applications for other platforms are not made is because they're not as easy to develop for or the SDK is lacking.
 
Dont see how its any different to any other market tbh.

Chances are the majority of people typed their comments on these forums on a Windows based PC for which there are too many applications to even guess a number.

Why? Because it has the biggest single user base compared to OSX & Linux..

The iphone has the biggest user base hence a shed load of developers have jumped on it.

I'd bet though that if you took all the phones running Symbian they would out number the iphone by quite a number. Its just that Nokia has re-hashed it and modded adn released so many different versions of it for so many years that a lot of people using wont even know they are using Symbian.

Shame really because first and foremost from my device, I shockingly want it to be a phone which the Iphones are a joke at being.

Probably why I have an E71.
 
Lets see what happens when Nexus hits the shelves, I'm looking forward to some serious competition to get Apple's lazy behind in gear. Should be a good year for mobile development if Google pull it off.
 
Symbian started out great but Nokia just left it out to hang, dry and rot, not forgetting the Nokia connection suite was a piece of bloated crap that never worked.
I went from Nokia 6600 > P910i > M600 > N90
The only substantial thing that changed between them was hardware. Its a shame as i was blown away by the 6600, by the time i got the N90 it was meh.

Apple picked up on the shortcomings of Symbian and capitalised!
Google were just to late to the scene, but they are picking up pace and will hopefully open a few iphone users eyes!
 
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