iPhone V2 speculation...

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Yep I bought mine on launch day, but only because there was no queue where I live. Othewise would have wairted for the rush to end. I bought knowing full well there would be a 3G version coming but if you always wait for the next version then you will never buy it.

I have been using since October and I expect that O2 will do what they did with the 16Gb in that you can upgrade to the new phone by inserting existing sim in, update O2 with the new MAC address for Cloud Wifi access and away you go, no need to sign upto a new contract.
 
EVH said:
I don't see how this is a slap in the face?

The people who bought on launch night have had their use of the phone, and when the 3G one comes out they'll just transfer the SIM to the new handset, and flog the old one on an auction site :cool:
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Well... there could be some potential flaws here.

1. The iPhone 1.0 SIM is GPRS/EDGE only (i.e. not 3G compatible... at least I think its not :D)
2. If the SIM were 3G compatible, the tarriff that its on (i.e. the iPhone 1.0 tarif) will almost certainly be different to that of the iPhone 2.0 tarif (I.e. GSM/EDGE Vs 3G tarifs)
3. The iPhone was only released just over 6 months ago. The day 1 users still have to wait another year before being able to switch over to the 3G contract (assuming O2 offers no transfer option).

Naturally progression of technology means we lose out in the long run yes. I understand this :D

But what I feel is a bit cheeky here is the face that someone could pick up an iPhone 1.0 for 400 dollars in the states on an 18 month contract, only to find that if he had waited another month, he wouldve been able to get a faster data connection contract with a superior phone for a cheaper price.
 
mdjmcnally said:
I have been using since October and I expect that O2 will do what they did with the 16Gb in that you can upgrade to the new phone by inserting existing sim in, update O2 with the new MAC address for Cloud Wifi access and away you go, no need to sign upto a new contract.
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I hope you're right about this mdjmcnally, but I'm not too sure it will be as easy as that.
 
Cavallino said:
Well... there could be some potential flaws here.

1. The iPhone 1.0 SIM is GPRS/EDGE only (i.e. not 3G compatible... at least I think its not :D)
2. If the SIM were 3G compatible, the tarriff that its on (i.e. the iPhone 1.0 tarif) will almost certainly be different to that of the iPhone 2.0 tarif (I.e. GSM/EDGE Vs 3G tarifs)
3. The iPhone was only released just over 6 months ago. The day 1 users still have to wait another year before being able to switch over to the 3G contract (assuming O2 offers no transfer option).
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1. Rubbish, do networks even issue 2.5G SIM cards any more? I bet if you shove it in a normal 3G capable phone it'll work perfectly.

2. How are they going to differentiate between GPRS/EDGE/3G data? It's... data and it's all the same!

3. They offered an upgrade option for people wanting the 16GB iPhone, what makes you think they wouldn't with the 3G one?
 
OllyM said:
1. Rubbish, do networks even issue 2.5G SIM cards any more? I bet if you shove it in a normal 3G capable phone it'll work perfectly.
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Sorry, let me clarify.
You will not be able to use the 3G functionality, using your iPhone 1.0 SIM.
The iPhone SIM card is a 2.5G SIM card, you can stick it in a 3G phone but I would think that you cannot connect onto the UMTS network.

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2. How are they going to differentiate between GPRS/EDGE/3G data? It's... data and it's all the same!
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Well, yes and no. In electronic terms GPRS/EDGE utilises different technology (i.e. GSM/EDGE/CDMA, whereas 3G and 3.5G will utilise technologies such as WCDMA/OFDM etc.

The O2 iPhone 1.0 contract is a GSM/EDGE one. So I'm guessing that O2 wouldnt have 3G functionality enabled for iPhone contract users.
(And also, as stated above, it is most likely that the iPhone 1.0 SIM is 2.5G (why would it be 3G if the iPhone is only 2.5G).

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3. They offered an upgrade option for people wanting the 16GB iPhone, what makes you think they wouldn't with the 3G one?
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Granted, but your going from a GPRS/EDGE phone to another GPRS/EDGE phone in that example.
Btw how much extra did they have to pay for the 16GB? Or did they have to pay full whack (and flog the old iPhone?)
 
Hmm just an update... it seems that the SIM in the existing iPhones is indeed 3G capable :confused: Read it on another forum where a user claims to have taken his SIM out of his iPhone and put it into a Nokia E65.

Sorry for any confusion!
 
Cavallino said:
Hmm just an update... it seems that the SIM in the existing iPhones is indeed 3G capable :confused: Read it on another forum where a user claims to have taken his SIM out of his iPhone and put it into a Nokia E65.

Sorry for any confusion!
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I was under the impression the iPhone sims only worked in iPhones.
 
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I was under the impression the iPhone sims only worked in iPhones.
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Hmm, as far as I know I dont think that is the case.
(at the end of the day its just a mobile phone SIM (nothing special about it apart from the fact its being used in an iPhone)).
 
Cavallino said:
Hmm, as far as I know I dont think that is the case.
(at the end of the day its just a mobile phone SIM (nothing special about it apart from the fact its being used in an iPhone)).
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Yeah never got my head round HOW they'd do it, sure I read it somewhere though.....
 
I just wanted to clairfy..

The iPhone SIM is a regular 02 SIM. Take a normal 02 SIM, stick it in, and restore the phone.. it will allow you to activate it with your old number.
 
I'm hoping that O2 will make it fairly simple for people on existing iPhone contracts to switch to a new 3G phone. Afterall a lot of the existing iPhone users will want to upgrade and it's all extra money for them.

I'm wondering if they'll make you sign another 18 month contract, but I probably would considering I only bought my other iPhone 3 months ago..
 
Raider said:
I'm hoping that O2 will make it fairly simple for people on existing iPhone contracts to switch to a new 3G phone. Afterall a lot of the existing iPhone users will want to upgrade and it's all extra money for them.

I'm wondering if they'll make you sign another 18 month contract, but I probably would considering I only bought my other iPhone 3 months ago..
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I am not sure how the 3G version will differ, but when the 16GB model came out, you could upgrade in one of two ways;

  1. Keep your SIM from your 8GB model, and put it in the new phone
  2. Use the SIM that came with the 16GB phone, and activate it with your old number

You would carry on with the contract if you used your old SIM, but it would restart the contract if you used the new SIM and re-activated.
 
TBH if they keep the same system in place for activation via itunes then with the £170 (inc tax) return flights to the US Delta keep doing and the exchange rate the way it is I can see where my next family holiday will be to ... GPS is about the only major lacking item for the iphone feature list once you've taken care of the glaring omissions like MMS and propper SMS with 3rd party apps. A better camera would be nice as well though :)
 
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