If you say so. What I class as nonsence is allowing Iran to have nuclear capabilities when there's a good chance they'll use it for weapons.dirtydog said:Iran may or may not intend to make nuclear weapons but it is nonsense to say they have no legitimate reason to want to create nuclear energy now.
I'm not aware that Iran has a thriving non-oil export industry.
William said:Cartoon of my view of what were to happen at the request of Mr.Sprout.
Phnom_Penh said:You ever seen that End of the World flash video? sort of sums up what will happen tbh.
No, contains swearies, reason I didn't link it in the first place . Google tbh.Sem said:link?
dirtydog said:Not really a fair analogy because children have less rights than adults. Iran on the other hand is a sovereign nation with a legitimate government which has the right in international law to have nuclear power or weapons if it wants.
Imagine if the situation was reversed and Iran and its allies started dictating to us, what would we say? "Alright then, whatever you say sir"? No we'd be outraged.
Fair enough, you only mentioned Iran. Personally I too would rather no-one had them as well. From a global perspective it's difficult to see situations where using a nuke would give a better result than not using one. Short term gains and long term losses is all I see.Sirrel Squirrel said:I don't feel comfortable with any country having nukes, don't think I made that clear in my other post though
U238 is not fissile, U235 is. That's why it needs to be enriched. Weapons grade uranium is more highly enriched than fuel grade, that's all. A fast breeder works by some of the U238 capturing neutrons that are emitted when the U235 decays, turning it into U239 which then decays by beta emission and becomes Plutonium 239 . which can also be used as fuel and as a weapon. The bad news is that Plutonium is a lot more radioactive and a lot more toxic than Uranium. Just as an aside, Little Boy (Hiroshima) was a Uranium bomb and Fat Man (Nagasaki) was a Plutonium bomb.William said:It is odd that they specifically wish U235 for power generation when a fast breeder would do the job and use U238.
Meh, I thought they were both Uranium, but were U235 and U238. Nakasaki was indeed Plutonium 239 though.Treefrog said:Just as an aside, Little Boy (Hiroshima) was a Uranium bomb and Fat Man (Nagasaki) was a Plutonium bomb.
True, and different sources give emphasis to different parts of a story, including parts which others miss out.serlex said:well the media does not help, if you do not believe the leaders, media is the only way, less you go to Iran and see it for yourself
[nit pick] U238 is fissile when used as the third stage in a Teller-Ulam fusion bomb[/nit pick]Treefrog said:U238 is not fissile
Hehe - and the Iranians are giving those away free with every box of dates!Sleepy said:[nit pick] U238 is fissile when used as the third stage in a Teller-Ulam fusion bomb[/nit pick]
LOLTreefrog said:Hehe - and the Iranians are giving those away free with every box of dates!