Iraq Failure (yet again!)

RaohNS · 17 Oct 2006 at 08:46

@if ®afiq said:
Are you saying US Aid is not political? - and why would a report from the US State Department on how well the war in Iraq is going be more reliable? Do you think they would not have an interest in making evrything look glossy?

USAid is a direct charity and incase you don't realise they use Aid Directly from the US Public... they do more good for your Muslim Brothers in Palestine for instance than the Palestine "elect" do... $1billion a year towards clean water and supplies and as has been said before 95% of Palestinians aren't even aware that the well down the road was funded and built by money from the American Public

They're an aid agency just like the Christian Red Cross

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@if ®afiq · 17 Oct 2006 at 09:03

RaohNS said:
They're an aid agency just like the Christian Red Cross

Maybe you should read up on the history of US Aid, especially in Latin America, before you defend it.

It has been found that the level of US Aid was directly proportional to the level of brutaility in the Latin American countries over the past 50+ years, i.e. the more brutal the regime the more money it got. Nothing at all to do with my "brothers".

Chomsky said:
"These facts might lead a superficial observer to conclude that the U.S. government just likes torture. But causal connection can't be deduced from a correlation; we have to look further. This was done in a broader study carried out at the same time by an economist at the Wharton School of the University of Pennsylvania, Edward Herman, published in a book we co-authored in 1979. Herman studied the relation between torture and foreign aid worldwide, finding that the same correlation held: states that engage in torture are more likely to receive U.S. aid. But Herman also did a second study which offers a plausible explanation for the correlation. He compared U.S. aid with the climate for business operations, finding that the two were closely correlated. That makes sense. Foreign aid, after all, is largely a device whereby the U.S. taxpayer subsidizes U.S. corporations via some other country, which may incidentally gain from the process. Resorting to this device increasingly as opportunities for profit improve is completely natural, given the sources of policy-making."

RaohNS · 17 Oct 2006 at 09:05

@if ®afiq said:
Maybe you should read up on the history of US Aid, especially in Latin America, before you defend it.

It has been found that the level of US Aid was directly proportional to the level of brutaility in the Latin American countries over the past 50+ years, i.e. the more brutal the regime the more money it got. Nothing at all to do with my "brothers".

is this part of your anti-American "School of the America's Watch" ?

USAid gives more to Palestinian people than Arab countries do... and they are effectively sticking their fingers up to the US... you don't like America, but they are doing more for Muslims than Muslims are doing for themselves...

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@if ®afiq · 17 Oct 2006 at 09:10

RaohNS said:
is this part of your anti-American "School of the America's Watch" ?

Why roll-eye histroy? A lot of what SoA has done has been well documented - how can you refute it? It really is amazing how you only see what you want.

Also, my quote was not from thr SoA site. I remember reading about it ina couple of Chomsky's books.

RaohNS said:
USAid gives more to Palestinian people than Arab countries do... and they are effectively sticking their fingers up to the US... you don't like America, but they are doing more for Muslims than Muslims are doing for themselves...

If the Palestinians had a choice betweeen US Aid and the US getting out of the ME - I know which they would take. Don't think that Palestinains can be bought, just as they cannot be straved into submission.

RaohNS · 17 Oct 2006 at 09:35

@if ®afiq said:
Why roll-eye histroy? A lot of what SoA has done has been well documented - how can you refute it? It really is amazing how you only see what you want.

Also, my quote was not from thr SoA site. I remember reading about it ina couple of Chomsky's books.

If the Palestinians had a choice betweeen US Aid and the US getting out of the ME - I know which they would take. Don't think that Palestinains can be bought, just as they cannot be straved into submission.

Well you refute a lot of History when it comes to Israel and the fact that Israel was there a loooooong time before Palestine was... i reserve the same right.

Noam Chomsky? You mean the Jew?

Well if that was the choice they wanted they'd be shooting themselves in the foot... for starters the medical supplies would stop, the economies of virtually every country would collapse overnight...

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