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Just wondering how much vram is enough for a standard in high end video cards?
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Is 16GB of Vram The Standard For High End Graphic Cards?
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Hard to say as each game differs with what it needs/wants. You will also get some opinion differences on what constitutes as a 'high end' card.
As a line in the sand I would start with 12Gb for 4k games.
As a line in the sand I would start with 12Gb for 4k games.
Oh god, here we go again. I bet you have a 3080.
12gb minimum for 4k gaming
And for high-end PC VR, especially for games like Skyrim with lots of mods.
Soldato
Oh god, here we go again. I bet you have a 3080
12gb minimum for 4k gaming
Yep, few of them about. 
In fairness 2020 if you got one it was OK as long as you were not the type to hang on to a GPU for 4+ years. However as the question I am assuming implies buying brand new right now, I would not be purchasing a card like the 3080 so close to 40 series release (where you will likely see more VRAM even on the 4070 sku).
Oh look another "vram" thread...
*grabs popcorn*
Depends entirely on Res. and settings and rasterisation or ray tracing scenarios....
Grunt and vram go hand in hand as has been evidenced throughout several threads now.... Essentially no point having 16gb vram if they don't have the grunt in the first place as we have seen in several ray tracing titles now and likewise no point having the grunt and too little vram as we have seen with the 3070 8gb vram in a couple of games/scenarios at 4k (but as many have stated before, 3070 was never really a proper 4k card....)
Given the 40xx series is right around the corner and a 4060/4070 is likely going to match and beat a 3090 for a considerably cheaper price, I certainly wouldn't be buying any RDNA 2 or ampere GPUs now, just look at what happened with the 3070 upon release and the 2080ti situation
*grabs popcorn*
Depends entirely on Res. and settings and rasterisation or ray tracing scenarios....
Grunt and vram go hand in hand as has been evidenced throughout several threads now.... Essentially no point having 16gb vram if they don't have the grunt in the first place as we have seen in several ray tracing titles now and likewise no point having the grunt and too little vram as we have seen with the 3070 8gb vram in a couple of games/scenarios at 4k (but as many have stated before, 3070 was never really a proper 4k card....)
Given the 40xx series is right around the corner and a 4060/4070 is likely going to match and beat a 3090 for a considerably cheaper price, I certainly wouldn't be buying any RDNA 2 or ampere GPUs now, just look at what happened with the 3070 upon release and the 2080ti situation
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16Gb should be the standard for high end cards.
The 3080 only has 10Gb which prevents its 8704 CUDA cores from fully stretching their legs. Then the 3090 is the opposite because it doesn't have enough CUDA for its 24Gb to fully stretch it's legs.
The 3080 only has 10Gb which prevents its 8704 CUDA cores from fully stretching their legs. Then the 3090 is the opposite because it doesn't have enough CUDA for its 24Gb to fully stretch it's legs.
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48GB across all lines of cards or none because if we have what is enough people will argue it is not enough and so on as most people are also excruciatingly stupid and think in extremes, so am fitting in with 48GB or nil.
This is my pompous, ignoramus, kun-ty opinion on the matter and there is nothing you can do about it.
It is not in the writing that my opinion could be proven, since it is not truth that usually wins a debate especially in a place where intelligence and rules for debate are not instilled, but the people with enough self-interest and over-confidence and enough of a backing by the people who also likely never use, touched or saw the things they speak about IRL.
Just as there is nothing I can do to make people change either.
https://www.skilledatlife.com/things-we-cannot-control-or-change-in-life/
https://everydaypower.com/quotes-on-change-growth/
This is my pompous, ignoramus, kun-ty opinion on the matter and there is nothing you can do about it.
It is not in the writing that my opinion could be proven, since it is not truth that usually wins a debate especially in a place where intelligence and rules for debate are not instilled, but the people with enough self-interest and over-confidence and enough of a backing by the people who also likely never use, touched or saw the things they speak about IRL.
Just as there is nothing I can do to make people change either.
https://www.skilledatlife.com/things-we-cannot-control-or-change-in-life/
https://everydaypower.com/quotes-on-change-growth/
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The man from AMD, he says over 10GB, https://youtu.be/jjBqaGLRycc?t=465
Soldato
..and that's at 1440p..
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By AMD who equipped their GPU's with 16GB Vram knowing Nvidia went with lower amounts.
Though we have some evidence of Far Cry 6 with a texture pack liking more Vram.
And some evidence against this by people who own Nvidia too, so who knows?
I don't trust marketing from either side.
Caporegime
Absolutely rocking 4K with my 11Gb 1080ti, dropping a few settings,if needed, isn't the end of the world, unless your a moron!
Soldato
Yeah this is true and should be a given for anyone but the sect of die-hards that exist. The exaggeration (you may be implying) will be less likely though due to reviewers, then gamers out there which would pull up the stats pretty swiftly. As the games and hardware have been out about a year now, I think it is fair to say its nonfiction.
I've yet to have a problem with 8gb on my old
v56 or with 12gb on the new 3080ti.
I'm at 1440p and I don't care if I'm at ultra or Max graphics settings.
I think it will be a long time before I have to drop to medium on many games.
The real difference in graphics quality between 8gb and 16 isn't significant to me.
v56 or with 12gb on the new 3080ti.
I'm at 1440p and I don't care if I'm at ultra or Max graphics settings.
I think it will be a long time before I have to drop to medium on many games.
The real difference in graphics quality between 8gb and 16 isn't significant to me.
I'd much rather forgo the another 2gb VRAM and 10% performance for an extra 60%+ more money, when the 3080 isn't fast enough for 4K in a the majority of games then nor will the 80ti or 90 be good enough either regardless of the extra VRAM.Oh god, here we go again. I bet you have a 3080
12gb minimum for 4k gaming
AMD also said 4gb VRAM wasn't enough for 1080p when they released the 5500XT 8gb yet 20 months later its successor gets released with 4gb so I wouldn't pay to much attention as they just say whatever to fit the narrative.
https://community.amd.com/t5/gaming/game-beyond-4gb/ba-p/414776
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I think 16 GB will definitely be the new standard for anything mid-range or above. On the one hand the need for > 8 GB is clear, and on the other hand AMD/NV won't want to make cards with bus widths too large, so for 256-bit bus cards 16 GB will be an obvious option.
What people don't get is that even right now a lot of games that require a lot of vram are still GIMPED in terms of how much they allow the streaming & loading of higher res textures and models. And then RT as it gets more complex also hits vram quite a bit. So all the hacks & band-aids currently done driver-side to accommodate the <12 GB cards will not necessarily be there next gen and with the next crop of games.
I know personally I definitely won't touch a card without a minimum of 12 GB, but realistically I'll want 16+. I've had instances where even my 16 GB wasn't enough and I could have used more (FC6 downsampling shenanigans), and I'm sure I'll run into that more going forward. Niche scenarios but hey, that's the fun of PC gaming in the first place! Why else spend all this money on high-end gear otherwise?
What people don't get is that even right now a lot of games that require a lot of vram are still GIMPED in terms of how much they allow the streaming & loading of higher res textures and models. And then RT as it gets more complex also hits vram quite a bit. So all the hacks & band-aids currently done driver-side to accommodate the <12 GB cards will not necessarily be there next gen and with the next crop of games.
I know personally I definitely won't touch a card without a minimum of 12 GB, but realistically I'll want 16+. I've had instances where even my 16 GB wasn't enough and I could have used more (FC6 downsampling shenanigans), and I'm sure I'll run into that more going forward. Niche scenarios but hey, that's the fun of PC gaming in the first place! Why else spend all this money on high-end gear otherwise?
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Have no interest in 4K gaming or VR and 1440P is plenty res for my needs so alway's going to have enough Vram, my next gpu card will have 16Gb Vram though.
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You should be getting 16GB mimimum on a high end card, any less and you're getting robbed. Although not high-end the 3070 with a 8GB was an absolute scam.
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