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Well the 480s been released 3x times, Vega only the once, so far, so i wouldn't rule it coming out again 
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Is 7nm Vega on the way for gaming?
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HAHAHA in Coreteks's pipe dream!
AMD cant crush Nvidia, AMD GPU marketshare last quarter in Q3 2018 was collapsed to 25.7% with 2.54 million cards shipped and Nvidia gained 74.3% marketshare with 7.36 million cards shipped just weeks after Turing launch.
https://www.3dcenter.org/news/die-grafikchip-und-grafikkarten-marktanteile-im-dritten-quartal-2018
AMD no doubt will have really very tough 12 months in 2019 to try recover lost GPU marketshare before Intel enter AIB marketshare in 2020 with desktop GPU to take some marketshare from Nvidia and AMD.
Sorry Coreteks lost his mind, can you imagine AMD squeeze into very tight GPU market with possible 10% marketshare in 2020. AMD will never recover with very few cards shipment.
HAHAHA in Coreteks's pipe dream!
AMD cant crush Nvidia, AMD GPU marketshare last quarter in Q3 2018 was collapsed to 25.7% with 2.54 million cards shipped and Nvidia gained 74.3% marketshare with 7.36 million cards shipped just weeks after Turing launch.
https://www.3dcenter.org/news/die-grafikchip-und-grafikkarten-marktanteile-im-dritten-quartal-2018
AMD no doubt will have really very tough 12 months in 2019 to try recover lost GPU marketshare before Intel enter AIB marketshare in 2020 with desktop GPU to take some marketshare from Nvidia and AMD.
Sorry Coreteks lost his mind, can you imagine AMD squeeze into very tight GPU market with possible 10% marketshare in 2020. AMD will never recover with very few cards shipment.
AMD have 16.7% Nvidia have 16.6% Intel own the rest of the market. It's Nvidia that have hard times ahead.
They're smashing it in markets that matter, only fanbois can deny this
Intel are going after AMD's and Nvidia's 16% and AMD are going after Nvidia 16% and Intel's 66%
Only a buffon could come to the conclusion that puts AMD graphics in a tight spot.
got mt £250 ready https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWIS6XcAiKU 
got mt £250 ready https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWIS6XcAiKU
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As a long term AMD user i totally agree with you. Amd could bring out superior hardware and still lose. For this to happen Nvidia would have to be mediocre for a good few gens and AMD would have to be bringing it constantly. It just won't happen.
indeed, people are just misinformed, fanboys or just thick. The amount of people that still bang on about bad drivers from amd pretty much cements that.
Because AMD keep/kept saying Vega 7nm is only for Instinct. They've said it countless times.I said back in November that AMD would bring us a consumer 7nm Vega card and I got shouted down for suggesting it.
So unless they changed their mind, it ain't happening.
You swing comments about buffoons while ignoring the very much factual position of each of the companies... in competing for this market segment nVidia is able to much more focus its resources than Intel despite Intel being in many ways twice the company nVidia is it simply has too much going on in other areas to fully bring its size to bear and AMD has far less resources and money in the bank to compete against nVidia in open war - in a race to the bottom nVidia could literally bankrupt AMD 5 times over.
If it comes to a scenario where anyone is in a tight spot that is almost certainly going to be AMD as if it comes to active attempts to dominate the market then nVidia and Intel are going to duke it out leaving AMD the scraps and the winner is then going to turn on AMD anyway.
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There are a lot of people who seem to KNOW what AMD are doing now.
Things will change a lot between now and launch I imagine and I expect there to be surprises both good and bad. AMD suddenly have a lot of capital though that they haven't had in quite a long time so hopefully it will allow them to be competitive again.
Things will change a lot between now and launch I imagine and I expect there to be surprises both good and bad. AMD suddenly have a lot of capital though that they haven't had in quite a long time so hopefully it will allow them to be competitive again.
Honestly Intel have a bit of a headstart stealing most of the Vega team from AMD. Not necessarily a bad thing either as they got the short end of the budget stick for Vega, had to weather the criticism for a card that is ultimately pretty good but not on par with Nvidia's flagship's of the time. In turn they got lambasted by the media and it's not surprising they ended up at Intel. Intel have a good chance of bringing something good to the table with the 2nd gen of whatever they are developing, just expect Vega like missteps for the first release.
Nvidia sat on their laurels a bit and Turing was the result. Costly, less than expected performance uplift and prices that make anyone but the hardcore fanboy or accidental millionaire wince in pain. They certainly put the first shot across the bow with the RT cores though I think they jumped the gun releasing it for the 2xxx series. 3xxx would likely have been the viable point to get 1080p and 1440p into the ecosystem as 4K is just too hard to manage currently. Even current raster cards can't handle 4K very well so it seems like they are jumping ship.
In turn I think the next 2-3yrs of Gfx hardware are going to be some of the most hard fought and interesting years after 4yrs of pretty much boredom on that front.
Nvidia sat on their laurels a bit and Turing was the result. Costly, less than expected performance uplift and prices that make anyone but the hardcore fanboy or accidental millionaire wince in pain. They certainly put the first shot across the bow with the RT cores though I think they jumped the gun releasing it for the 2xxx series. 3xxx would likely have been the viable point to get 1080p and 1440p into the ecosystem as 4K is just too hard to manage currently. Even current raster cards can't handle 4K very well so it seems like they are jumping ship.
In turn I think the next 2-3yrs of Gfx hardware are going to be some of the most hard fought and interesting years after 4yrs of pretty much boredom on that front.
Yeah. I complete laugh at those who say that Intel will bring a game changer card in the market.
Reason is Nvidia and AMD have't lease a single graphic patents to Intel and without them the best Intel can do is bring a compute card on the datacenter market. Not a consumer/gamer product.
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I'd love for AMD to bring something in to compete at the mid and upper mid range at a good price, as even though I have an Nvidia card, the whole Gsync thing and no freesync support kinda sucks. If Vega 64 was cheaper I'd side-grade in an instant!
You must be the ultimate focus group optimist. So you really feel this ends well for Nvidia? That is really interesting...