Is blu-ray all you expected it to be?

PanMaster said:
Thanks to those retarded yankees and their stupid 23.976fps framerate, a frame has to be repeated every 41.67 seconds.

A sane framerate would be 30fps or 60fps. In short blu-ray is not good enough.
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Not true, the video simply plays back at that speed, no frames are repeated.

It's frustrating the amount of companies out there that do poor conversions, the company I work for do things the way they should be done and charge for it accordingly but we have lost clients in the past to companies offering cheaper rates and doing things poorly, this reflects in their DVD/Blu-ray releases. I had to laugh when a client came back to us with badly converted footage from one of these cheap companies who said "it was converted professionally using QuickTime and merged frames".

Funnily enough it is actually Apple and iTunes that is going to be driving higher quality releases, for the iTunes store they reject for things like interpolation, poor conversion, cross conversion, up-scaling, aliasing, drop out. Clients actually go back and re-master their DVD and Blu-ray releases because they wouldn't be accepted by iTunes unless issues were fixed.
 
It's everything I expected it to be.

Just to think, in 3-4 years most of us will probably be annoyed by the quality of 1080p once 4k becomes the standard :D
 
Rich_L said:
I think the answer will depend on two factors, the quality of TV owned and the eyesight of the poster :D
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I have a 3.5 year old 46" Sharp 1080p LCD screen (so probably average at best by modern standards) and **** eyesight. I don't find bluray particularly mind-blowing; good DVDs look pretty decent to me.

Personally I find 5.1 vs Stereo sound makes more of a difference for me than bluray vs dvd, although that's perhaps a little unfair as a comparison in the sense that it is doing something different rather than doing the same thing better.

By and large I only buy/rent blurays and watch HD tv channels, but I don't have any issue watching DVD or SD tv.
 
Actually, I do have some problems with Blu-Ray now I think about it.

1080p is fine, don't care about 4k. But there are still compression artifacts! They are annoying.
 
Jordeh said:
I don't think Blu-rays will ever replace DVDs. by the time they get anywhere near there will be a new format.
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Blu-rays have definitely replaced DVDs for me, in fact all of my DVD collection has now been turned into Blu-rays. Dont think i could ever get used to watching DVDS again, the quality on them are shockingly bad and my eyesight isnt the best but i definitely see a huge improvement in picture quality on Blu-rays.
 
Sirrel Squirrel said:
Not true, the video simply plays back at that speed, no frames are repeated.
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Grossly overlooking things to say the least.

24 / 23.976 != 1 The video must stay in sync.

A frame must be repeated every 41.67 seconds (very irritating), 3:2 pulldown (defeats the whole purpose of 24p) or a +0.1% speed up distorting the audio track. All screens support 24hz or 59.94hz, there is no such thing as a 23.976hz refresh rate.
 
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No frames are repeated, it's simply the speed the video plays back at and displays can cope with it unless you've got the display and player set to force the playback at 24.

When the master is created the audio and video are sync'd to 23.976.

There is such a thing as 23.976hz and 47.96hz.
 
HangTime said:
Personally I find 5.1 vs Stereo sound makes more of a difference for me than bluray vs dvd
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The Audio difference between bluray and DVD IS as big as stereo vs 5.1. I am a poor mans audiophile: meaning I can't afford the equipment to get the absolute most out of it, but the audio quality on blurays is so so so much better.
 
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Phinor said:
As I watch all my Blurays (and DVDs) on my computer, I'd say Bluray has been a massive disappointment so far. Thanks to their strict DRM and license policy, there's still not a single good Bluray software player around. I have two things I want from such player, a) that it actually WORKS (which rules out most of the players) and b) I don't have to watch 10-15 minutes of ads to see the Bluray movie I paid 20-30 bucks to get (and this rules out rest of the players out).

At least VLC is doing something with Blurays now but it remains to be seen if they can finish the Bluray support.
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NAS, MakeMKV - job done.
 
As most people have said I think that blu ray quality is pretty dependent on the equipment being used to play or view it. If I were to watch films on a smaller screen then I wouldn't be particularly bothered about getting blu ray over a standard dvd.

That said I also think that blu rays have become a format for the AV enthusiasts, I know that someone like my Dad wouldn't be too fussed either way so long as he got it for the right price! I also enjoy the enhanced sound quality on offer and can actually utilise some of the few 7.1 surround sound films that are out there, again this is probably something your average Joe isn't too fussed about.

Blu ray doesn't make films any better but for me it does enhance the experience of watching them, if that makes sense?
 
It all depends on the authoring quality, and the equipment used to view the disk (for the most part) ... if either of these are not that good then the result is sub-par. My TVs are not great and my eyesight is poor but even I can tell the difference between a well authored BD and a DVD.

BDs are worth it for me due to their better handling of subtitles too ... the limitations in the DVD format just made subtitles way to basic and intrusive.

Personally I still buy DVDs but that is because not everything I want is released on BDs ... I'd prefer to get things just on BD but if it's a choice between DVD or nothing I'll take DVD.

v0n said:
As hard as it is to believe, most people, regular viewers and such - are detail blind. True story. Most people don't see obvious things, like wrong aspect ratios, low bandwidth issues and pixelisation of terrestrial digital channels let alone more "settle" problems like bad standards conversions, ghosting, dropouts etc which drive a lot of us literally nuts. Most of those people watch Freeview ITV pixelotto most of the day, and when they finally switch channels to a very average, rather badly converted Sky movie channel they think it's as good as it gets. And in all honesty, on a rerun channel, going through cheapest Sky box to a budget line, few years old korean laggy LCD set to incorrectly letterbox and stretch 16:9 content on a "HD ready" screen, it probably actually is. As good as it gets for them.
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I wouldn't say that people are detail blind ... they are just not so anal about quality as long as things look reasonable and are watchable. They accept that what they have may not be perfect but it's good enough for what they want. I have had a friend come round and be amazed at how good the Freeview looked on my TV compared with his ... well that's because I've got a decent aerial that's properly aligned whilst his is a common one in a block of flats ... but whilst my picture was a lot better than his, without pixelation etc, his was ok for what he wanted.
 
Had i a 5 year old philips lcd and swaped it for a sammy d8000. Blu rays and hd content is vastly better on it. Can't look back to sd anymore,im a snob for this now
 
The only DVDs I get now are for things like TV shows where there isn't a Bluray available, not bought a film on DVD since Bluray was released whenever it was.
 
Anyone who says Blu-Ray doesn't make much of a difference obviously hasn't watched any of the Disney releases, or the Pixar films on Blu-Ray. Watching the Shrek collection on Saturday showed a massive difference over DVD, as does something like Beauty and the Beast.
 
Some films look incredible on blu ray, others are barely better than DVD. My kit isn't great, but it's certainly good enough to notice the difference in picture quality. Price wise I don't care - I barely buy any DVDs or blu rays, just rent things from Lovefilm, and where possible I always pick blu ray over DVD on there.
 
It's not so much the picture. If you have a proper home cinema sound system (Hi-Fi spec), Blu Ray makes a huge difference.
 
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