Is he going to jail?

ElRazur · 23 May 2006 at 17:44

Put into consideration, his age and motive (probably a prank), is he really gonna go to a youth detention centre or jail?

http://www.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,30200-1222593,00.html

robmiller · 23 May 2006 at 17:47

I don't think prison would be particularly helpful to him. Considering he's probably scarred for life and will never pull a prank like that again, I don't see why he needs to go through the trauma of prison too.

That's presuming he understands what he's done and regrets it, of course.

ElRazur · 23 May 2006 at 17:49

robmiller said:
I don't think prison would be particularly helpful to him. Considering he's probably scarred for life and will never pull a prank like that again, I don't see why he needs to go through the trauma of prison too.

He faces a murder charge and that will carry a sentence of some sort, im just wondering what will be the out come.

Stringy · 23 May 2006 at 17:49

Seeing as his aim was probably just to let the parking brake off to cause general mischief I can't see any form of serious punishment being worthwhile. Unless the kid took the brake off with the intention of making the bus hit someone, or the girl specifically, it's just a very tragic accident.

ElRazur said:
He faces a murder charge and that will carry a sentence of some sort, im just wondering what will be the out come.

Being found guilty of a crime doesn't necessarily mean there will be a sentence or a punishment.

spirit · 23 May 2006 at 18:00

hell prolly get therapy of some sorts and thats about it

asim · 23 May 2006 at 18:05

A real shame. Respect to the 12 guys who tried to lift the bus off her.

Al Vallario · 23 May 2006 at 18:14

CNN, FOXNews, BBC News, NY Daily News, NY Times, New York Post.

Sounds absolutely awful. Some news agencies are referring to the two (believed to be two) children who broke into the bus and tampered with the brakes as "pranksters" and "mischief-makers". Personally I don't think they deserve to be locked up for the rest of their lives; I'm sure having to deal with the pain and heartbreak they've caused will be the worst punishment they could ever get

fatty1 · 23 May 2006 at 18:17

electric chair

Andelusion · 23 May 2006 at 18:20

I think he should definitely be punished, whether or not he intended to do it (he most likely didn't, but you never know) he needs to know that his actions were foolhardy, as he's so young I think it may be a good while until he realises just what he's done.

The Pat · 23 May 2006 at 18:54

The kid/s probably didnt even realise what it would do.

ElRazur · 23 May 2006 at 19:00

The Pat said:
The kid/s probably didnt even realise what it would do.

Are you sure? Kids can suprise you with what they know....

Sirrel Squirrel · 23 May 2006 at 19:02

Don't think they had any idea what would happen, when I was about 5/6 I took the hand brake off my dads truck when he was getting some fish and chips, the truck was parked on a hill so it went rolling backwards down it, I can just remember my dad running down the hill and jumping in to quickly pull the hand brake up again.

Alchemy · 23 May 2006 at 19:04

Sirrel Squirrel said:
Don't think they had any idea what would happen, when I was about 5/6 I took the hand brake off my dads truck when he was getting some fish and chips, the truck was parked on a hill so it went rolling backwards down it, I can just remember my dad running down the hill and jumping in to quickly pull the hand brake up again.

I vaguely remember doing something similar, but it wasn't rolling very fast.

Squark · 23 May 2006 at 19:05

But does the kid realise the full significance of what he's done?

LoadsaMoney · 23 May 2006 at 19:11

Yeah he'll face a murder charge, but he'll just get a PS2 pr something.

ElRazur · 23 May 2006 at 19:13

LoadsaMoney said:
Yeah he'll face a murder charge, but he'll just get a PS2 pr something.

and a copy of man-hunt?

Seriously i wonder what's gonna happen.

paradigm · 23 May 2006 at 19:17

One thing i'm wondering is why don't they know the girl's age? Did her family (who the press have obviously spoken to) not know either :confused:

It appears to have been a very unfortunate accident, I don't feel jail would be the answer here however

SexyGreyFox · 23 May 2006 at 19:42

I would have thought he'd be under the age of responsibility.

Oracle · 23 May 2006 at 19:57

LOL.......got to laugh at the headline........'boy faces murder charge'

What a pile of carp! It wasnt pre-meditated so its man slaughter (clearly). It was a stupid prank that went horribly wrong, its a tough call.

Sequoia · 23 May 2006 at 20:40

dmpoole said:
I would have thought he'd be under the age of responsibility.

In many states, there's no such thing.

It's a complex and incoherent picture, but the criminal justice system is basically split into the normal (adult) and juvenile systems. Exactly when a child ends up in which system varies enormously from one state to another. Many states don't have an age below which a child caanot be dealt with by the juvenile system, and among those that do, the age differs. Many states also have some offences which can be dealt with by an adult court, regardless of the age of the 'accused'. And for other situations, some states start in the juvenile courts, but cases meeting certain criteria can be transferred to adult courts, while others start in the adult courts for certain categories of offence but cases can be referred back to juvenile court.

Oh, and cases tried in adult courts usually are subject to adult penalties, and in no small number of cases, punishment will take place in adult institutions, not children's ones. This can apply down, certainly, to age 13.

Frankly, and this comes from someone that normally defends (up to a point) the US stance on most things, this whole business is a national disgrace.

Is he going to jail?

Wise Guy