Is it worth buying a new Intel CPU right now?

[bulldog147]

Hi, I already have a HD Graphics card that I can install, or I can just buy another cheap HD one.

I dont do any gaming and I only need an HD card.

May I ask what HD graphic card you got? Cos I don't play game as I only want high end graphic card to support 4K UHD you tube video and netflix

 

[Sarge2255]

I hope so.

I just purchased Corsair Vengeance® LPX 64GB (32GB x 2) DDR4 PC4-28800 3600MHz DIMM Desktop RAM.

• MD RYZEN 9 3900x Socket AM4 processor with cooler.
• MSI MAG X570 TOMAHAWK WIFI ATX Motherboard
• Corsair Vengeance® LPX 64GB (32GB x 2) DDR4 PC4-28800 3600MHz DIMM Desktop RAM.

Total upgrade cost £836.41

Congrats on the upgrade.

 

[mid_gen]

But why 64GB memory ram as it waste of money as 16GB ram are more than enough for these day for next five years. Memory ram never used all 16GB in desktop pc

It's quite easy to use that much memory when you're working. I frequently use over 64gb.

 

[midiman]

But why 64GB memory ram as it waste of money as 16GB ram are more than enough for these day for next five years. Memory ram never used all 16GB in desktop pc

Not if you use it for work and have to run multiple virtual machines. I have been maxing to 32GB and stuck on 100% CPU time.

64GB should give me twice the headroom and be good enough for the next 7 years.

I have a Server that has 96GB RAM too but I can't use that as my everyday PC.

 

[midiman]

Congrats on the upgrade.

Thanks, I think that I have picked out some good parts for a good price and I am looking forward to putting them altogether in my case.

I have gone from a decent 7 year old spec to a mouth watering on in a day lol.

I started looking when I got up and closed the orders at 2AM then went to bed lol.

And I went from Intel to AMD for the first time ever.

 

[4K8KW10]

Hi, Is it worth buying a new Intel CPU right now?

Because I want something that has support for PCIe 4.0 and DDR4 3200.

It seem like I am either going to have to wait for this new Rocket Lake or go with an AMD Ryzan.

What do you think?

Thanks

HI Alex,

That's what I was thinking too. The price of them might be too high, and it looks like the technology could be limited as well.

So AMD might still have the advantage until the next release of Intel CPUs.

Intel said Alder Lake will be launched in September. Better simply wait to see it.
It will have DDR5 and PCIe 5.

 

[midiman]

It's quite easy to use that much memory when you're working. I frequently use over 64gb.

See my reply above.

It can be when you are running lots of memory intensive projects on your machine. I was nearly maxing out on 32GB RAM and my CPU was sitting at 100%.

As part of my job I have to run virtual pcs and do other media related tasks. So I have a lot of photos, video and other documents open all the time.

64GB will give me 2x the capacity and headroom to continue working comfortably for the next 7 years.

I also went for the 2 x 32GB DDR kit, so that I have the option to add some more modules if I want to up to 128 in the future.

 

[4K8KW10]

I was nearly maxing out on 32GB RAM and my CPU was sitting at 100%.

The CPU should be at 100%. If you are below the 32GB mark, that means you don't need more than 32GB.
And you can always add a 4GB or 8GB memory stick.

 

[midiman]

Intel said Alder Lake will be launched in September. Better simply wait to see it.
It will have DDR5 and PCIe 5.

Too late now, and we could always around for the next technology to come around.

Intel haven't even got to PCIe 4 and I cant wait forever.

It will probably take some time for DDR5 and PCIe 5 to come through and it's not like I have just ordered something terrible now.

My new setup should last me for a good few years and I will think about DDR5 and PCIe 5 at a later date when it is mainstream.

Thanks

 

[4K8KW10]

Intel haven't even got to PCIe 4

Because they will skip it and we will move to PCIe 5 and in several years to PCIe 6.

64GB will give me 2x the capacity and headroom to continue working comfortably for the next 7 years.

Probably no chance. The CPU capacity in 7 years - no chance.

 

[Alex h]

Too late now, and we could always around for the next technology to come around.

Intel haven't even got to PCIe 4 and I cant wait forever.

It will probably take some time for DDR5 and PCIe 5 to come through and it's not like I have just ordered something terrible now.

My new setup should last me for a good few years and I will think about DDR5 and PCIe 5 at a later date when it is mainstream.

Thanks

I agree this should last you a few years and new tech has new bugs and at what cost for ddr5

 

[Alex h]

Because they will skip it and we will move to PCIe 5 and in several years to PCIe 6.



Probably no chance. The CPU capacity in 7 years - no chance.

How do you know his cpu wont last 7 years do you know what his uses are ? The 3900x is a beast of a cpu and your talking trash intel havnt skipped gen 4 its on rocket lake which is comming out end march stop giving false information

 

[4K8KW10]

How do you know his cpu wont last 7 years do you know what his uses are ? The 3900x is a beast of a cpu and your talking trash intel havnt skipped gen 4 its on rocket lake which is comming out end march stop giving false information

Wow !
Intel will support PCIe 4 from March 2021 till September 2021 which is effectively skipping it. No matter how differently you'd call it
Intel will support PCIe 5 starting in only 6 months from now.

 

[Alex h]

Wow !
Intel will support PCIe 4 from March 2021 till September 2021 which is effectively skipping it. No matter how differently you'd call it
Intel will support PCIe 5 starting in only 6 months from now.

Doesnt matter how long its implemeted for its not skipping it and your telling the op to wait for something nobody knows how it will perform and dont know 100 percent if it will be released on time anyway the op has bought the components anyway so this is irrelevent mate

 

[bulldog147]

64GB ram is overkill. You don't really need it. 16/32GB are more than enough

 

[WiGgLr]

It's pretty funny how midiman has stated several times in this thread that he's already maxing out 32GB of RAM for his multi-VM and media processing use cases, and people still come back here telling him that 64GB is too much

 

[4K8KW10]

It's pretty funny how midiman has stated several times in this thread that he's already maxing out 32GB of RAM for his multi-VM and media processing use cases, and people still come back here telling him that 64GB is too much

How much is the jump going from 32 up to 64? Aren't there other steps before going full 100% more memory?
Like for example, 40 GB (32GB + 8GB), 48GB (32GB + 16GB), etc...

 

[Alex h]

How much is the jump going from 32 up to 64? Aren't there other steps before going full 100% more memory?
Like for example, 40 GB (32GB + 8GB), 48GB (32GB + 16GB), etc...

And we all know that the amd 3 series processor is more stable with 2 sticks rather than 4 so why would he want to have 2 x16 and 2x4 that is just stupid what he has done is the correct decision hes bought the parts now anyway so theres no point in any of this

 

[midiman]

It's pretty funny how midiman has stated several times in this thread that he's already maxing out 32GB of RAM for his multi-VM and media processing use cases, and people still come back here telling him that 64GB is too much

Well spotted lol.

I was just thinking the same.

I think it might be a size thing.

I wish I could get away with a little one.

But my work is demanding and I need a big one.

 

[Simon Belmont]

Intel said Alder Lake will be launched in September. Better simply wait to see it.
It will have DDR5 and PCIe 5.

I don't think Alder Lake would come out that quickly? I could be wrong. With everything else being delayed it's only a matter of time.