Incorrect, when Intel pooped their pants in April 2017, they announced/launched the 8th Gen Core parts only 7 months after the 7th Gen, as they realised 4c8t CPUs at £350 were not going to compete anymore.
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Is it worth buying a new Intel CPU right now?
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Incorrect, when Intel pooped their pants in April 2017, they announced/launched the 8th Gen Core parts only 7 months after the 7th Gen, as they realised 4c8t CPUs at £350 were not going to compete anymore.
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Intel are finished. AMD are the future.
I'm not sure why some keep saying Alder Lake will release in 2021. 2022 Q2 availability is more likely. Consider that:
I think they will announce the 12th gen details in 2021 Q4 however, but that's different to having availability.
- Rocket Lake won't launch until 30th March 2021
- Intel still hasn't released Ice Lake server CPUs, the generation before the planned Sapphire Rapids 10nm SuperFin enhanced fab process (same fab. process as Alder Lake)
- Intel hasn't confirmed the release date of the 12th gen / Alder Lake CPUs. 1 year on from Rocket Lake launch would be a 'usual' cadence for a new generation. With every previous Core series release, there's been a 1-2 year gap in generations
One thing I've seen tech journalists do consistently for 10+ years, is intentionally whip up hype for new products many months before they are ready, jumping on every small announcement. Worse are YT channels who claim to have inside sources
Gen 10 intel core i7 cpus are good for gaming but not the best value for money.
I wonder what thier onboard graphics is like.
What puts me off with AMD is more heat, a little worse gaming performance, and their prices we high last time I checked.
Last I checked, AMD was better at performance per watt of heat. While they can run warmer, it's more than Intel are than anemic.
For a given performance point, they run cooler. I believe.
depends on what you mean by "more heat"
ryzens use less power and are actually more efficient than intel's comet lake - 120w for the 5800x vs 210w for the 10700k to compare 8c to 8c when overclocked
as amd's silicon is denser, their power/mm2 concentration is higher hence why it is harder to dissipate the heat (and why temperatures appear harder to control in comparison to comet lake)
That's possibly the stupidest statement I've seen this year. What's your evidence of this ?
Urgh , I'm wasting my time. You have no evidence.
To be sure Intel will bounce back, lets just hope AMD keep the ball rolling and both companies continue the innovation. We don't need the stagnation of the past.
I had Chrome use 9gig multiple times. 32gig of RAM is where you want to be at if you're looking to be 3-5 years safe.
AMD are better for gaming at the moment. Intel are going to run into heat issues as they move to a smaller node architecture.
not at the bargain price point the i5-10400f outperforms the ryzen 3600 and costs £60 less add in a b560 motherboard with 3200 memory the margin increases even more
That's why we have pagefiles lol. I've only seen physical RAM usage go above 16gb on buggy software / faulty realtek drivers.
I mean of you buy two similarly performance chips, say like an Rtx 3060 laptop (The Intel vs AMD versions).
The AMD version runs slightly hotter, and the maximum clock frequencies are slightly lower across all cores. But the AMD chips have more cores/threads so this makes sense.
I'm finding new AMD chips are now also expensive? Matching Intel's prices and for gaming, Intel chips are still faster or just as fast in games shown on YouTube benchmarks, even if it's by 5fps
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clock frequency is not the only determinant of overall performance
A bit like how AMD were finished in 2012?
You are correct, other factors like cache etc, but in PC gaming a high clock frequency is a big factor once your chip has above a certain amount of cores/threads I.e above 4cores/threads.
I have a rig with a Core 2 Duo E8500 at 5.1Ghz that pulls very similar frame rate to a Core i7-10870h (8 cores and 16 threads). Many games don't just use the extra cores/threads. Mainly the older games don't even use the cores, take Crysis, it will prefer 5ghz 2 cores than 4.2Ghz 8 cores.
Sure, depends on your needs.
and also IPC, which is what I was alluding to. where AMD has a large step up above intel at present
very much so and might swap it out later in the year
I would prefer a ryzen 5 series but have to factor in finances for now
saying that someone i was speaking to had a ryzen 5600 delivered yesterday and with DOA and is now waiting for a replacement
I'm yet to have a DOA (or even dead within 4 weeks+) 5xxx CPU, I have to wonder how much of the DOAness (new word) is down to incorrect (component/knowledge/BIOS) etc. I fixed a supposed DOA 5800X system by demonstrating that the PSU wasn't providing a good +12v rail causing system instability that looked like a bad CPU.