Is it worth getting an X-Box

Originally posted by DirtyBerty
Microsoft won't monopolise any time soon, if they do eventually well that's life. :(

But atm they're doing terrible in Japan and the PS2 is still by far the best selling console, xbox is attractive to the geeks who give a damn about image quality/polygons per second/dolby digital etc. but the average Joe still sees PS2 as THE console to own.

If MS focus more on the games line-up with XB2 then Sony may have to start worrying, but even still the Japanese seem intent not to welcome it with open arms so it will be difficult for them to knock Sony off their pedistil.
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I dont think Japan is a big deal. Japan is most likely going to buy from a Japanese company anyways and PS has been around for donkeies years and is a household name. I thin, given the right amount of time, less than the PS though, the XBOX will be just as good if not better in Japan.

People who buy the PS2 now are doing it because its the cool thing. I know some people who even claim that the PS2 has better graphics than the Xbox.
 
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Originally posted by HaX
You will when the only console you can get is an MS one and games aren't released for the PC anymore.
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Wow. Biggest fanboy comment I've read in a LONG time. And if you know who I am and what I do then you'll be laughing a lot now ;)
 
Not allowed to say because the admins keep suspending my account/deleting references to where I work. Something to do with the inbalance of the links... quite how that works when the site you work for is one of the biggest games sites in the world I don't know...
 
Originally posted by Caustic
My original point was that MS have shown inventiveness and/or creativity and one of the examples I gave was it was the first to use PC components. Yes, many have used common CPU's etc but none have been PC hardware. My point was that nearly all the components were slightly modified PC ones. This I think shows a certain level of inventiveness and/or creativity. Nothing you have said has disproved that.

But I have to laugh at you proving me wrong.

"First of all here is a quote from a article over at gamespy proving that the NES used off the shelf PC components"

Except that it doesn't! Oh yes, have you got a 486, an Athlon or a Pentium? No, I have a NMOS 6502! Is the NMOS 6502 an 80x86 chip? Nope.

As for the GC vs Xbox stats. There have been several different ones floating around from different sources. However, whats most amusing, is the one you link to actually says that the GC and Xbox are very close: "... while Nintendo is roughly even with Microsoft".

As for the Disk Drives in the Nes and N64DD, I don't think they were a fully rewriteable media, like a HD. I can't be bothered to try and find out either.

"Anyway nice proving you wrong"

Indeed it was :D

CD
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People are very biased towards one console arnt they. That article posted showed nintendo had 9.4 million units end of april, xbox was end of june, i think there is a clear second dont u. Even if you dont want to believe it. they are the facts.
 
Originally posted by Stiff_Cookie
I dont think Japan is a big deal. Japan is most likely going to buy from a Japanese company anyways and PS has been around for donkeies years and is a household name. I thin, given the right amount of time, less than the PS though, the XBOX will be just as good if not better in Japan.

People who buy the PS2 now are doing it because its the cool thing. I know some people who even claim that the PS2 has better graphics than the Xbox.
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What so not selling well in japan does not matter means your willing to part with Namco, Capcom, Square/Enix, Sega, konami etc etc support. The main reason for doing well in japan is that it makes the best games in the buisness. its already apparent from the lack of japaneeze support on the xbox and the sales show from this. If microsoft want to succeed in the console business they need to gain japaneese support to widen there game selection and being outsold by the PSone every week is not the way to do it.
 
AND FFS, I was reading the replies and forgot what this topic was about.

Afterlife, I've spent under £200 on my xbox and a lot of fun it has brought me. Yeh it's deffo worth investing in an xbox - go ahead.
 
Originally posted by adam cool dude
People are very biased towards one console arnt they. That article posted showed nintendo had 9.4 million units end of april, xbox was end of june, i think there is a clear second dont u. Even if you dont want to believe it. they are the facts.
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I'm not going to bother going on. They say they are about equal. Now clearly, they are the ones in the know, so who are you to know more than them? Besides, its only 2 months and the margin of error is higher than that. Besides it all depends upon what the company considers as 'sold' and how hard it is to know the exact number actually sold to the end user.

But please, lets drop this pointless argument. Back to the topic.

I don't think the Xbox is amazing but it is getting better and better. I mean, it has certainly got a lot of room for improvement so getting one now is perhaps a good time i.e. Good games out now, loads more in the pipeline. Also the graphics are still getting rapidly better as is Xbox Live.

I think a fairly major point is that if you can get Live and you like internet gaming, then, thanks to Live, the Xbox becomes a very good proposition.

CD
 
Originally posted by adam cool dude
What so not selling well in japan does not matter means your willing to part with Namco, Capcom, Square/Enix, Sega, konami etc etc support. The main reason for doing well in japan is that it makes the best games in the buisness. its already apparent from the lack of japaneeze support on the xbox and the sales show from this. If microsoft want to succeed in the console business they need to gain japaneese support to widen there game selection and being outsold by the PSone every week is not the way to do it.
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So according to your figures Nintendo has narrowly beaten the xbox for the 2nd spot of top selling console. But that is with widespread japanese support. So it is safe to assume that the xbox easily outsells the GC in Europe and the US.

As for the Japanese being the best in the business at making games. I dont think this is so anymore. They do make great RPG's yes' but as far as im aware EA make the best selling line of Sports games (sales wise).

Having 3 consoles is great ive got all 3 and have a wide and varied range of games. Its getting close to the SNES, Megadrive and Amiga era (Golden Age of Gaming imho.) But its just not as good just now as it was back then, maybe because im older now.

Back to the topic. Is it worth it YES. Some good and great games out for the xbox and at the price it is a worthy addition to a console collection.
 
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Originally posted by sc(+)pe Its getting close to the SNES, Megadrive and Amiga era (Golden Age of Gaming imho.) But its just not as good just now as it was back then, maybe because im older now.[/B]
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scope I'm just like you, those where the days... rushing back from school to play on my SNES or my Amiga. Since I'm older gaming just isnt the same.
 
Originally posted by sc(+)pe
So according to your figures Nintendo has narrowly beaten the xbox for the 2nd spot of top selling console. But that is with widespread japanese support. So it is safe to assume that the xbox easily outsells the GC in Europe and the US.

As for the Japanese being the best in the business at making games. I dont think this is so anymore. They do make great RPG's yes' but as far as im aware EA make the best selling line of Sports games (sales wise).

Having 3 consoles is great ive got all 3 and have a wide and varied range of games. Its getting close to the SNES, Megadrive and Amiga era (Golden Age of Gaming imho.) But its just not as good just now as it was back then, maybe because im older now.

Back to the topic. Is it worth it YES. Some good and great games out for the xbox and at the price it is a worthy addition to a console collection.
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Well i know for a fact the gamecube is second in europe and is about 500,000 units behind the xbox in the US (mainly for last years christmas period) As for EA making the best sports games the SEGA 2K series totally whoop there ass in reviews and the best football game available is Pro Evolution Soccer from Konami so i guess japan does make the best games
 
Right, as far as I know, here are the figures

In MS's financial results that were published on June 31, there were a total of 9.4 million Xboxes sold worldwide.

6.2 million in the US
2.2 million in Europe
1 million in Asia Pacific

In Nintendo's financial results, published May 25, there were a total of 9.55 million GameCubes sold worldwide.

5.13 million in the US
2.47 million in Domestic (ie Japan)
1.95 million in Other (Europe, Australia etc)

From these figures, it would appear that GC have sold slightly more worldwide (due to the strong Domestic sales), but the Xbox has sold more units in the US (by quite a bit) and in Europe (less so). In other words, there is still plenty of healthy competition between them, and they are both successful consoles in their own right.

However, I think that the next year will be the year of the Xbox, as more people get signed on to Live!, and we start to see games like KOTOR, Fable etc appear, as well as games like the sequels to Sega GT, PGR etc.

As for answering the thread :)

Yes I would recommend going for an Xbox, my friend and I have an Xbox and PS2, and currently the Xbox is getting all the play, because all the new PS2 games seem to be available on Xbox but with better graphics and more features, and games like Rallisport Challenge and Halo get played loads.

Get one, give it a go and Im sure you wont be disappointed, particularly with the lack of memory cards and the custom soundtrack option, I havent had a go with Live (due to lack of braodband even remotely having a chance of appearing in the near future) but Im sure it is good, as everyone who has tried it seems to be addicted :)
 
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I think this is the only forum on the whole of this board where threads can go so woefully off-topic so soon.

Afterlife, it all depends on the game you want to play, and which consoles, if any, you own at the moment. There are plenty good games about for the Xbox now, which should keep you entertained for a good while. However, once you've played through them all, there's not too much on the horizon for the Xbox, or any of the consoles really. It's all gone a bit stale. Anyways, with all that new found wealth, whats a few quid to you (jealousy :) )?

I may as well throw my hat into the rest of the discussion too while I'm here. I really don't see what the problem with Microsoft is, they are a successful company with enough cash to choke all the donkeys in Arabia, so what? Securing high-profile titles with that cash is just good business. You don't like that these titles don't appear on other formats? Buy an Xbox. Microsoft have done a decent job with the Xbox so far, maybe not in Japan but then again, they are a little strange over there. They have also listened to customers needs and acted upon them, which for such a large company is a great achievement. Probably the best example of this is the S controller, consumers wanted, consumers got.

Oh, Caustic, I have to pick a hole in one of your points, it wouldn't be right if I didn't would it? :)

Saying that using PC components is creative, it isn't. Ok, admittedly it has worked to good effect, but it was probably down to the fact that they wanted to get it out as quickly as possible before the PS2 stole the market completely, which as everyone probably knew before it was even released, it did. Using existing off-the-shelf parts probably shaved a good twelve months from the design process, if not more. And it probably accounted for the large size of the Xbox, and also most of the criticism which is thrown at the Xbox.

I think this is my longest ever post. :)
 
Originally posted by adam cool dude
Well i know for a fact the gamecube is second in europe and is about 500,000 units behind the xbox in the US (mainly for last years christmas period) As for EA making the best sports games the SEGA 2K series totally whoop there ass in reviews and the best football game available is Pro Evolution Soccer from Konami so i guess japan does make the best games
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You might find that the SEGA 2K games are actually developed in the US. So they arent really japanese are they. Unless they hired no US citizens what so ever and hired them all from Japan and paid for them to go work in the US. Seriously doubt that though.

And maddens is superior to NFL 2K3.
 
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Originally posted by sc(+)pe
You might find that the SEGA 2K games are actually developed in the US. So they arent really japanese are they. Unless they hired no US citizens what so ever and hired them all from Japan and paid for them to go work in the US. Seriously doubt that though.

And maddens is superior to NFL 2K3.
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Err they are made by sega, sega being from japan and based in japan. does sega even have a office in US since they went bankrupt, i know they dont distribute a lot of their games here in the UK.
 
Right, time for me to sort out the rubbish again :)

Adam: Stop posting rubbish! Yes Sega are japanese. We know that. Does that mean Sega write all the games they publish? No. NFL 2k3 and NHL2k3 are published by Sega but made by a company called Visual Concepts. Their address is 1 Thorndale Drive, Suite 300 San Rafael, CA 94303. Yup, thats a California Addy I do believe. You can find all that out on IGN's site. I believe they make most of Sega's Sports titles. They might or might not be party or wholely owned by Sega, but thats different still.

As for saying that the 'SEGA 2K series totally whoop [EA Sports'] ass' thats not true either. The average reviews on gamerankings for at least some of their respective titles are quite similar.

Worthy: A good post. I like the fact you took what I said and actually disagreed it with a valid reason. :) Makes a change. I might not have been very creative but I think it was innovative in some way and maybe slightly creative. They took a different approach to everybody else, using components they knew a lot about. Their options were limited and they were pushed for time, but that didn't stop them. In a way it was very unoriginal and non-creative but at the same time, opposite.

CD
 
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