Is it wrong for somebody to have the 'wrong' guitar?
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You can say what you like, it doesn't make it true.
No I wouldn't, I'd say he had good taste in guitars and nothing more. You don't have to be a good musician to have appreciation or realisation as to what good kit is.
No, but if a drummer brought a lot of stuff he didn't use, I would class that as silly. If he wants to use decent kit though, fine.
No I wouldn't, again, he just knows what good gear is and he can afford it!
Thats a fantastically rational conclusion, so thanks for that.
You are honestly saying that because I don't agree with you, I don't know what gear is good? Are you serious? How the hell could you come to that conclusion?!?!?
Yes. There. Is. And I have. And others have.
Seriously mate, everyone knows what you do and how long you've been doing it, stop dropping it into every post as some sort of proof that your point is valid. It doesn't work, and only serves to make you look silly.
I think your should be directing your misplaced anger at the establishments hosting these events, after all they are sourcing these bands and if they aren't up to it, then they shouldn't allow them to play, especially if they are charging money for it.
Or perhaps these bands turn up for auditions for these events with nice gear, the hosts just see it and assume they must be good and tell them they are booked - is that it?
I don't really see what the problem is, I have a fair amount of gear and it vastly outweighs my talent so to speak but I can appreciate a good intrument even if my ability doesn't really warrant it.
People buy Ferrari's and only drive them at 30mph.
Incidentally what were the band called? I actually know a guy who plays that same guitar and he suffers from a condition which makes his wrists and fingers hurt unless he has special injections, this means he's sometimes good and sometimes crap.
People buy Ferrari's and only drive them at 30mph.
Incidentally what were the band called? I actually know a guy who plays that same guitar and he suffers from a condition which makes his wrists and fingers hurt unless he has special injections, this means he's sometimes good and sometimes crap.
If he happened to be playing the working men's clubs of Stoke he would have been heckled by a 50 year old bloke who's been gigging 38 years dontchaknow !
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You obviously can't read so I'll repeat -
I AM NOT SAYING THESE MUSICIANS SHOULDN'T HAVE GOOD GEAR
I have never heckled anybody ever.
Anybody who can get up on a stage and perform in front of people will always get my respect.
In fact in 32 years of going to watch bands I've only ever walked out on a handful and they were all blues bands because they bored the poo out of me.
Fantastic musicians but boooooring.
However, if you're playing a Gibson Les Paul Standard or Ibanez JEM I will expect you to put 3 chords together in time and in tune.
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You can't help yourself can you
lmao
And I can't help but wind you up and you fall for it everytime.
I really don't mind when I see musicians with better equipment than me, regardless of whether they are beginners or professionals. What is there to mind?
The stuff I use is what works for me, and ignoring a small change I'm going to make in the next month or two I don't think there's anything significantly better for any money. I've played with musicians who have honky-looking gear (particularly drummers) but it doesn't matter one jot. If they're great, they're great. If they're not, they're not. I believe that the things they use are 95% irrelevant to the quality of the music they can make.
Similarly, a beginner playing a professional instrument is fine by me. Sure, they may not be using it to its full capability, but if it works for them, why not? Who am I to judge what people do and don't 'deserve'? I'm happy with what I have and I know the level I'm at, and it's fine
I think it's the guitarist in you talking dmpoole
arty
The stuff I use is what works for me, and ignoring a small change I'm going to make in the next month or two I don't think there's anything significantly better for any money. I've played with musicians who have honky-looking gear (particularly drummers) but it doesn't matter one jot. If they're great, they're great. If they're not, they're not. I believe that the things they use are 95% irrelevant to the quality of the music they can make.
Similarly, a beginner playing a professional instrument is fine by me. Sure, they may not be using it to its full capability, but if it works for them, why not? Who am I to judge what people do and don't 'deserve'? I'm happy with what I have and I know the level I'm at, and it's fine
I think it's the guitarist in you talking dmpoole
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Sorry.
I have no problem with total beginners going out and buying fantastic gear.
I have taught many people for 38 years with gear way better than me.
My problem is (and this is very rare that it happens) going to watch a band and you look at the stage.
You see great gear and you expect (since they are playing live) that they should string 3 chords together but it doesn't happen.
The thing is where most people would walk out I always stay to the end because I respect what they're doing.
Millions of people on You Tube aren't trying to entertain somebody who is spending their hard earned cash in a pub.
The band lasted about a month.
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I think you're missing my point too.
You walk in a pub.
You see a fantastic real piano on the stage and your experience tells you that you should be in for a treat.
You buy a pint and sit down.
The pianist comes on and plays chopsticks with all the wrong notes and out of time.
You would be disappointed.
You've made the effort to get there, you've bought a pint and now you've got to spend extra money to go somewhere else or put up with it.
Dude, seriously, these quotes are out of this thread alone
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Dude, seriously, these quotes are out of this thread alone
I KNOW
And notice how they're all different.
And stop typing in a brummie accent.
Is that a crap attempt to wind me up?
Oohh sig change as well, you really are grown up
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Is that a crap attempt to wind me up?
Oohh sig change as well, you really are grown up
I get bored sometimes
Hmm, I'd probably just conclude that I didn't like it, but I don't really understand the relevance of the 'equipment'. Surely you'd be disappointed regardless of the guitar, in your example? I might be impressed by or interested in the piano, but I don't think I'd have any preconceived notions about the person playing it.
arty
So what were the band called?
Did you actually have to pay to get in to see a pub band?
Incidentally, I love it when pub bands turn out to be crap, I find it utterly hilarious and would rather see that than a few so so cover versions.
To side with you for a second though, If I saw a band's equipment and it was really good stuff I would expect them to be able to play it well, however, if they couldn't play, I'd laugh my balls off
I started playing when I was 14 and stuck to playing a couple of bar chords for a few years. I gave it a break for about 8 years having never been good. I then played on and off, never really learning anything. However In the last couple of years I've decided that I want to learn a bit more and so I've bought some damn good gear..In fact I've spent thousands and when I spent it I was no better than I was when I first picked up a guitar But what the hell, I had the money and wanted it, I'd earned the right to own intruments by working day in day out, not by playing to a certain standard.
Did you actually have to pay to get in to see a pub band?
Incidentally, I love it when pub bands turn out to be crap, I find it utterly hilarious and would rather see that than a few so so cover versions.
To side with you for a second though, If I saw a band's equipment and it was really good stuff I would expect them to be able to play it well, however, if they couldn't play, I'd laugh my balls off
I started playing when I was 14 and stuck to playing a couple of bar chords for a few years. I gave it a break for about 8 years having never been good. I then played on and off, never really learning anything. However In the last couple of years I've decided that I want to learn a bit more and so I've bought some damn good gear..In fact I've spent thousands and when I spent it I was no better than I was when I first picked up a guitar
But what the hell, I had the money and wanted it, I'd earned the right to own intruments by working day in day out, not by playing to a certain standard.