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Violent-J said:
does someone have a problem with big headedness??
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does someone have a problem with big headedness??
Violent-J said:
But yu're lacking one MAJOR thing... experience. Only with experience will you become a good driver imo. Yes you have the fundamentals and by the sounds of it, you're not a **** behind the wheel but that doesn't make you "One of the best drivers on the road".
And strictly speaking you shouldn't NEED cat like reflexs... You shouldn't get yourself into a dodgy situation in the first place
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I passed first time, car and DAS motorcycle but that fact in no way means I was any better than anyone else. Driving tsts are a bit of a lottery in that you only need to avoid making a serious error over a 30 minute period where as in the real world you have a lifetime to avoid the serious error.
Violent-J: Your not going to win this argument. You lack the basic EXPERIENCE to be a fantastic driver, not to mention the fact that even the best drivers are still learning each and every time they get behind the wheel.
As for entering and winning many races:
Ahahahahahahaha!
As for entering and winning many races:
Ahahahahahahaha!
Violent-J said:
I predict a fairly painful fall sometime soon.
Here's the problem: your reactions are great, what scares the rest of us is the fact that your lack of skill, judegement and (most importantly) experience means you are driving in such a way as to need good reactions.
Violent-J said:
this is the line that got me, every learner driver that i've given a lift too takes great joy in pointing out things im doing and how "their instructor said" and "but the highway code says..."
the highway code says that my car should stop from 70mph in double the length it actually does.
good job for not being a plank behind the wheel, my grandfather used to say "watch out for the person behind the car in front"
Violent-J said:
I'm sorry but you really are an accident waiting to happen.
I passed my test first time with 5 minor faults.
This was some 13 years ago.
Here I am, turned 30 at the end of 2005 and only now would I start to consider myself a good driver.
At 17 and certainly for the first few years I lacked experience.
I'm sure if you'd asked me at the time I too would have told you how bloody amazing I was, how great I was, how as a youngster I had "perfect reactions".
However you are simply not used to all of the conditions and situations you can get into with regards driving.
It has taken me 13 years and it was only a few months ago that I was "forced" to move through a red light (Ambulance with blue lights and siren and me having to make room for him) for the first time.
I will not blanket say that all 17 year olds are bad drivers.
I know plenty of people who have been bad drivers all their lives.
I've also known 17 year olds who I perfectly trust to get me to my destination in one piece and in a safe manner.
However I would say that on average a 17 year old is too cocky behind the wheel, they lack the experience and alas your post shows just how cocky a young driver can be.
You are not invincible behind the wheel and unfortunately neither are the people and/or cars you can hit.
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originally posted by violent-J said:
Tosh. You're not a quality driver and I don't need to see you drive to know that. As perviously stated, you are young, inexperienced and hav had no 'real world' driving to deal with. When someone pulls out on you at speed you don't have time to say "err...I'll consult my highway code and see the appropriate braking distance..." By that time, you're toast. As you get better and more experienced, you become subconciously aware of things around you and that is something no instructor can teach - it's learned through experience.
If young drivers were good drivers, you would be able to insure my GTO no problem, but as it's £900 for a 26 year old with 4 years NCB (and having driven it...) I feel there is a good chance you would 1) Not get insurance and 2) bin it into a wall/another car/row of pedestrians VERY quickly.
Maybe they should raise the age to 18, but IMO the best thing to do would be to make the test MUCH harder. I mean make it really hard, cut out all the crap drivers that seem to get through.
Also, retest at 60 and every year thereafter.
Also, retest at 60 and every year thereafter.
DreXeL said:
Quoted for truth
Also maybe a limit of times you can try to take your test, 5 times and then its the bus for you.
Some people are not meant to drive and to fluke your 9th test doesn't make you ready to drive.
All the people (mainly girls) that I know who have taken 5+ tests to pass are all scary drivers who think they are good drivers.
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1.the age should be raised to 21, but it won't due to human rights issues.
2.the test should be made much longer and tougher and include compulsory motorway time, but it won't as the money and funding simply isn't there.
3.compulsory re-assessment every 3-5 years should be brought in, but it won't for the same reasons as point#2.
2.the test should be made much longer and tougher and include compulsory motorway time, but it won't as the money and funding simply isn't there.
3.compulsory re-assessment every 3-5 years should be brought in, but it won't for the same reasons as point#2.
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You can't raise the age from 17 to 21. If I couldn't drive til 21 then I wouldn't have my job. The same goes for a lot of young people. Sure it might be fine for people at Uni, but some of us actually work for a living.
Plus what magical thing happens at 21? You have little bit more maturity, but you can still be a complete idiot.
My plan would be to lower the limit to 16 with lessons at school, but you can't pass your test til your 17 or had at least 6 months driving experience.
That may be harsh to the fast learners, but at least everyone will have a little bit of experince on the roads.
Plus what magical thing happens at 21? You have little bit more maturity, but you can still be a complete idiot.
My plan would be to lower the limit to 16 with lessons at school, but you can't pass your test til your 17 or had at least 6 months driving experience.
That may be harsh to the fast learners, but at least everyone will have a little bit of experince on the roads.
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Indeed, so you'd get people at 17 years being frustrated that they cannot drive, but becoming determined to save for an ace car when they can.
At 21 instead of everyone driving around in 1.2 clios they'll all be jumping into supra twin turbos as their first car!
I think 17 is fine, but the test just needs to be a lot harder.
i think 17 years old is fine (i maybe biased ) most people i know are safe drivers who does not speed down high streets its mostly the chavs that drives(no idea how they passed). one time my mate stalled at the traffic lights so the chav that use to go to my school thought it woild be clever to give him a little nudge from the back 
) most people i know are safe drivers who does not speed down high streets its mostly the chavs that drives(no idea how they passed). one time my mate stalled at the traffic lights so the chav that use to go to my school thought it woild be clever to give him a little nudge from the back