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Is our or the next generation in danger of burning itself out?
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Clearly the problem is cultural marxism and the jews.
Do you relay need to ask, have you got anything to support we don't?posting studies out side of their scope is not support.
Surprisingly there is no detailed studies, the time machine hasnt been invented yet,
What we can say is that people saying people didn't have high levels of mental stress our wrong, even they say stress for survival etc, which is a mental stress.
Slavery was higher, prostitution was higher, crime was higher, chance of being wrong accused(general criminal stuff, witches, religion, spies etc) , chance of death was higher, chance of no where to live was high, chance of being disabled was higher (thing industrialisation and how many injured in the machine shops). Chance of war is far lower, as it the chance of being called upon and shot if you don't. So on and so forth with a thousand other things.
Obviously a lot depends on where you live in the world. But then does access to energy drinks and non physical jobs.
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I agree it's an impossible thing to prove really - other than anecdotal stories from parents or grandparents.
I don't think we feel better than we did - I think we have better access to healthcare, drugs (as in medical use) than ever before, perhaps masking the idea of being "better"?
I think each generation had it's trying times.
if any of you have seen: Pain, pus and poison? It's quite a good insight into how immature we are in terms of developing remedies for ailments. We literally are only at the start of medical maturity.
So I think we feel better because of modern medicine and intervention. If we REALLY are better - that's a debate that can be taken on for years. Is it an illusion? Or are we healthier? I think the divide is getting bigger, look at the sportsmen/women of the world - we're achieving greater things... however, we still haven't cured everything and millions die every year through either poor genetics, bad living conditions or just generally through disease.
The OP was more about the world around me (us) i.e. in a fast moving western world that we can all associate ourselves with. I fear a little for our younger generations.
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Sugar/HFCS is the biggest threat, until it's tackled and demonised the way smoking has then we're in for some serious NHS overload issues.
It's the lack of nutritional education that will be the death of folks, not helped by the likes of the EU very recently ruling to allow fructose laced products to be labelled as 'healthy'.
It's the lack of nutritional education that will be the death of folks, not helped by the likes of the EU very recently ruling to allow fructose laced products to be labelled as 'healthy'.
I would rather a total lack of it, rather than the crap they advertise and teach at the moment.
Most certainly, what we face today will be very different to the challenges we will face in the future.
We live in a world surrounded closely by people & technology - let people feel alone & isolated, historically the family unit was closer, now people move out as soon as possible & live alone, many may have more free time these days, but without the money to do anything in it - the time is spent unproductively.
In many ways things are better (regarding a reduction in the amount of serious negative events ,that I do agree with Glaucus on), but are we any happier for our all our advances? - or have we simply traded concern to survive for a long list of social neurosis in it's place?.
Staying alive is indeed easier now than it's ever been, but is it easier to have a happy & fulfilling life?.
(I'll give that documentary a look, sounds interesting).
Do you think people in the past were happy?
Rose tinted glasses.
I dream of a life more connected to nature where i make the majority of what I use.
And although this may work for a few people, i have no doubt that in the passed where the majority where doing it, they were not happy with that way off life.
Rose tinted glasses.
I dream of a life more connected to nature where i make the majority of what I use.
And although this may work for a few people, i have no doubt that in the passed where the majority where doing it, they were not happy with that way off life.
A couple of interesting charts. (the slight reduction in sugar in the top table recently was due to the increase of HFCS iirc)
Missing two charts there one showing the shift from manufacturing to finance and service industry and the 2nd showing amount of exercise.
I'm still shocked at how little our state schools look after the physical side of the children's well being.
Just looked at my son's highschool programme and only 2 hours a week is given to physical education. Considering the length of time they stay at school and the amount of homework they have to do when are they supposed to find time to exercise.
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Personally I think issues are more important in societal terms.
Yes physically we're in danger (more so from large populations and resistant bacteria), I think we have deeper issues in areas such as globalisation, gender differences, race etc
The whole idea of countries interacting and race mixing on such a scale is extremely new, and people have not been consulted. Will the information we're constantly fed, and our societal restraints be enough? Who knows.
From how I see a lot of (blokes in particular) people who have no patriotism, no belief structures, no pride in anything, constantly hounded by the sins of their fathers (great grand father's now!).
We are people without an identity, working long hours for no real reason. We have no traditional fallbacks to religion (if that's your thing), traditional family structures to provide for etc Etc
(Typing on a phone sucks)
Yes physically we're in danger (more so from large populations and resistant bacteria), I think we have deeper issues in areas such as globalisation, gender differences, race etc
The whole idea of countries interacting and race mixing on such a scale is extremely new, and people have not been consulted. Will the information we're constantly fed, and our societal restraints be enough? Who knows.
From how I see a lot of (blokes in particular) people who have no patriotism, no belief structures, no pride in anything, constantly hounded by the sins of their fathers (great grand father's now!).
We are people without an identity, working long hours for no real reason. We have no traditional fallbacks to religion (if that's your thing), traditional family structures to provide for etc Etc
(Typing on a phone sucks)
uneducated low income will just party through it 
middle class higher educated will carry on drinking grapefruit juice and ballroom dancing.
actually think its a little better now than early mid nineties in notts.
thing is look to what teens are being hammered with on tv being drunk when famous or smashed on drugs . is this different though from any era since 60s ?
middle class higher educated will carry on drinking grapefruit juice and ballroom dancing.
actually think its a little better now than early mid nineties in notts.
thing is look to what teens are being hammered with on tv being drunk when famous or smashed on drugs . is this different though from any era since 60s ?
It makes no difference to a lot of people, I know drinking two cans of Red Bull a day is bad for me, but so is the 70MPH crash into a central reservation when I fall asleep after a 12 hour shift and a 4/5 hour drive home.
I also don't get the time outside of work to really do much but eat and sleep, and when I do eat I don't have the time or spare money to be picky.
I'm exaggerating a little here for myself but it's the case for a lot of people these days. People earning minimum wage have to work long hours to get by and this means they are more likely to eat crap food due to it being "faster" than eating healthily and much easier to do.
This country really needs to put more effort into making it easier and cheaper for people to eat healthy, and also educating people into knowing about the effects of eating badly.
I also don't get the time outside of work to really do much but eat and sleep, and when I do eat I don't have the time or spare money to be picky.
I'm exaggerating a little here for myself but it's the case for a lot of people these days. People earning minimum wage have to work long hours to get by and this means they are more likely to eat crap food due to it being "faster" than eating healthily and much easier to do.
This country really needs to put more effort into making it easier and cheaper for people to eat healthy, and also educating people into knowing about the effects of eating badly.
I think it is frightening too, but what other people do I can't control. I can only look after my own, safe in the knowledge this cannot be forced upon me and if/when I have kids, help educate them and hope they choose not to do it. Granted, if everyone does it there may be some peer pressure to follow suit, but I seriously don't think it makes any difference compared to a good night's kip and plenty of veg.
It may be just my perception, but I see more and more people associating "I'm tired" with "I must drink a coffee." I see so many people walking and queueing like drones with a coffee in one hand every morning as part of their commute. I wonder if these people need sleeping pills to get to sleep at night as well? Plus on the weekends I'm sure a lot of the "young professionals" are tripping balls and doing all sorts to their natural hormones and sleep pattern. Blaming their job for the crappy Monday feeling when it's actually because they spurted all of their endorphins and dopamine when they dropped those magic pills and are now crashing down.
Certainly the number of Starbucks, Costa, Café Nero, and so forth chains has massively increased in the last decade in the UK. Plus the whole hipster barista thing. (side rant: Like that's a proper job. You serve hot drinks with poncy names, mate, get over it). These coffee places have replaced McDonald's as the establishment you'll find everywhere. It was always a running joke that no matter where you went, there will be a McDonald's. Now it's coffee. It used to be opium shops. It's not surprising at all that everything that sells really well has addictive properties. The most successful trading to date has been Tobacco, Alcohol and Coffee (and Tea) and over-the-counter pharmaceuticals (like sleeping pills and common painkillers). All are up there as biggest global industries. The coffee shops are even at petrol and service stations. My god. It's almost encouraging people to drive while tired, because "it's ok - you can get yourself a caffeine fix to keep you going."
And don't even get me started on RedBull.
Here's an interesting article on why modern life is causing more stress to the individual than historically it has.
http://www2.cnrs.fr/en/1070.htm - Stress, The Bane of Modern Life
I understand why Glaucus thinks the point is rubbish, as it seems he is just seeing it as : physical threat = stress, less physical threat = less stress, which is far too simplistic imo.
Whereas I am coming from the angle of modern coping mechanisms (or lack of), persistent low level stress causing continual autonomic responses due to the modern face paced, overstimulating world, lack of support structures : family/community/religion and as the above article discusses, the whole individualisation of people today.
Two other quotes that summed it up for me were :
http://www2.cnrs.fr/en/1070.htm - Stress, The Bane of Modern Life
I understand why Glaucus thinks the point is rubbish, as it seems he is just seeing it as : physical threat = stress, less physical threat = less stress, which is far too simplistic imo.
Whereas I am coming from the angle of modern coping mechanisms (or lack of), persistent low level stress causing continual autonomic responses due to the modern face paced, overstimulating world, lack of support structures : family/community/religion and as the above article discusses, the whole individualisation of people today.
Two other quotes that summed it up for me were :
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Why do it then? We work to live not live to work, you only have one life, I read that the number one regret of men at the end of their lives is, I wish I had worked less!
I feel sorry for the few generations after, 90%+ will be Jeremy kyle attendants.
Even now, most kids have poor lifes due to parents not caring or not being around to teach them right from wrong among other things.
Just gonna get worse, tech and medicine will advance but so will greed so it doesn't really matter.
Even now, most kids have poor lifes due to parents not caring or not being around to teach them right from wrong among other things.
Just gonna get worse, tech and medicine will advance but so will greed so it doesn't really matter.