Is the Mazda RX8 that bad?

Hi mate, no I don't remix tbh. a lot on the RX8forums do, some don't... I've not seen any definitive proof that the cars benefit from it and tbh, I'm not it's owner from new anyway/ When I bought the car, I knew it was solid, and with the latest compression test it's all fine etc. For me, it cost that little that if I need a £2.5k engine rebuild, so be it, I'll spend that to keep a great car on the road that in other terms is in mint condition.
 
Yes I have seen some pictures on the US sites of rotors that had been taken out of cars using premix and it did look healthier. Mazda themsleves used to do it on older cars.

Thats my thinking too, If I can pick up a low compresson one cheap all the better as I can rebuild it and then properly look after it.

Shame we wont get last model Spirit R over here :(
 
Well, just got the car back from the body shop, excuse the filth all over but it's bucketing down outthere. New front Chrome stainless rotary on the front, new lower lip and side skirts... think they look sweet... be better with some nice clean and wax..









 
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I dont really understand this comment. How can you say it has a perfect intake setup and what relevance does price have?

You obviously missed the word "near". But anyway, Black Halo Racing wrote a huge in depth article years ago about the intake system and how there are virtually no gains to be had at any point in the rev range, stock it has a variable cold air intake, different baffles and screens to smooth airflow, and variable length intake paths.
Most aftermarket solutions actually lower performance some really ruin it. The best complete after market is the AEM cold air intake and the Revi intake, which still doesnt really gain you anything and to just replace the filter in the standard box is about as good as it gets.
And price wise, most cars at this level from what i have seen have pretty simple filter boxes and maybe a cold air feed.

Well, just got the car back from the body shop, excuse the filth all over but it's bucketing down outthere. New front Chrome stainless rotary on the front, new lower lip and side skirts... think they look sweet... be better with some nice clean and wax..

Have you got the aircon and oil cooler screens done yet, they were one of the first things i did. Really stop the stones smashing the fins.

Surely having the plate there is blocking your airflow?

Its a fake grill behind the plate no air goes in there anyway, the real air flow is the bottom section and the cold air intake sock is right behind the number plate keeping out of the rain.
 
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That's no different to a Honda S2000 though, that cannot be improved easily. Not that it matters though, it may be technically impressive but the power vs mpg of these cars means more than what intake system it has. The torque curve certainly doesn't suggest anything of interest and it seems all that stuff you mention just keeps it online with a normal 4 pot. If you want impressive intake system at low price then you can buy a Rover with VVC or a Fiat multi air.

A rotaries real issue is the amount of energy that ends up going out of the exhaust rather than concerns over VE. I guess you can ignore that though a focus on largely pointless things.
 
I don't actually think its a bad car at all. Earlier in the thread I posted some acceleration times to add some context to the Honda comparison but the running man felt the need to be all big man about it in the post of his I quoted up there

He must own one

Ah because I can give a balanced argument, then I must own one?

Why did you feel the need to go all big man and post 0-60 times whilst ommitting track times from the very website you plucked the 0- xx figure?

I haven't owned a Mazda in 6 + years and currently drive an Mr2 turbo so...I guess you'll be back peddling?
 
That's no different to a Honda S2000 though, that cannot be improved easily. Not that it matters though, it may be technically impressive but the power vs mpg of these cars means more than what intake system it has. The torque curve certainly doesn't suggest anything of interest and it seems all that stuff you mention just keeps it online with a normal 4 pot. If you want impressive intake system at low price then you can buy a Rover with VVC or a Fiat multi air.

A rotaries real issue is the amount of energy that ends up going out of the exhaust rather than concerns over VE. I guess you can ignore that though a focus on largely pointless things.

You make it sound like my main reason for liking the car is its intake, im thinking you didnt read the post i replied to. I was explaining why the graph looked like it did with the dips. Nothing more.

Also even mentioning torque when it comes to a rotary is missing the whole point of them. Your right when you say they waste gas, they put out far more gasses than a piston engine, which is why there so perfect for turboing, IMO the RX8 should have had one.
 
Ah because I can give a balanced argument, then I must own one?

Why did you feel the need to go all big man and post 0-60 times whilst ommitting track times from the very website you plucked the 0- xx figure?

I haven't owned a Mazda in 6 + years and currently drive an Mr2 turbo so...I guess you'll be back peddling?

Why you trying to be a big man?

DO YOU EVEN LIFT BRO?!
 
im thinking I might pick one of these up in the new year. Can get some good ones from dealers for £3-4K , low mileage. One dealer even has the 231 with 35K on the clock.

If the engine gets rebuilt does the odometer get reset? Or is there some law in place to prevent this? just asking as theres a few with sub 35K mileage for a 2004 model (2-3 owners) - seems really low to me. My civic is 4 years old with 50K on the clock.
 
Milage is on the car not the engine, though it will be recorded at what milage the engine was fitted. Both mine were sub 30k one had had a rebuild and was just finished running the engine in.
 
im thinking I might pick one of these up in the new year. Can get some good ones from dealers for £3-4K , low mileage. One dealer even has the 231 with 35K on the clock.

If the engine gets rebuilt does the odometer get reset? Or is there some law in place to prevent this? just asking as theres a few with sub 35K mileage for a 2004 model (2-3 owners) - seems really low to me. My civic is 4 years old with 50K on the clock.

Mileage stays the same. You would have receipt/proof of then engine rebuild at a certain mileage.
A lot of the Rx8's are not used for long commutes so mileage tends to be pretty low compared to 'normal' cars. Check they are not quoting the mileage since engine rebuild/replacment
 
Ive never driven one but a friend of mine recenty got rid of his, after i dunno about 3 years, stating all the predictable popular opinion..
Awesom drivers car but not worth the hastle.
 
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