Is the Mazda RX8 that bad?

Muffin` said:
Or you could include all the data available from even that particular site? It's always funny when people try and prove a point with selective data.

Lap Times (9)

Track----------------------S2000---------RX-8
Top Gear Track------------1:37.40 vw----1:31.80
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Wut... Did they change the track significantly from when the S2000 came out Vs the RX-8 release?
 
Or you could include all the data available from even that particular site? It's always funny when people try and prove a point with selective data.
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I dont have all night to pull these stats in unfortunately. I looked at top gear but left that one due to the wet tyres. The others were just tracks id heard of that didnt include special version of the cars like the R3, which was 3 secs faster than a standard rx8 on one circuit!

My point was however, that despite being significantly slower, 0-100, 0-200 etc, the RX8 still beats an S2000 on a number of circuits, despite having 25bhp/ton less than the s2000.

Which to me indicates that it does, infact handle quite well.
 
acemastr said:
It's a fantastic engine, that sadly requires more maintenance and care than people are willing to give it.

The concept of a rotary is amazing, a constantly spinning rotor, as opposed to a piston that stops twice every rotation which is simply wasting energy
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So what does it do with all that avoided wasted energy? Is the RX8 a very efficient car?
 
The Running Man said:
That doesnt really tell you anything about the handling though...


Down at the old Variano Handling course however


103. Mazda RX-8 1:24.55 '02
231 / 1400

116. Honda S2000 1:25.64 '99
239 / 1260


Laguna Seca

57. Mazda RX-8 1:50.42 02
231 / 1400

58: Honda S2000 1:50.74 '99
239 / 1260

Twas a nice try though.

That the lower power, heavier car is faster, i think heads must roll at Honda.
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dear oh dear, you come across as a very bitter fanboi

please tell me how me plain jane acceleration times were ever meant to be demonstration of handling/all round ability, or anything other than acceleration?

if we do look at it in terms of acceleration, the rx8 sadly gets trounced in every possible way and returns such poor fuel consumption its a complete write off in terms of being a sensible ownership consideration

as for handling, thats all well and good, but given how the cars are so neglected theyre blowing up left right and centre, i highly highly doubt any of the owners have actually bothered to maintain the suspension at all, so you can bank on the handling being shot to pieces too

nice try etc etc
 
The Running Man said:
My point was however, that despite being significantly slower, 0-100, 0-200 etc, the RX8 still beats an S2000 on a number of circuits, despite having 25bhp/ton less than the s2000.

Which to me indicates that it does, infact handle quite well.
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14! Track times means it grips well, not handles.
 
Matt82 said:
dear oh dear, you come across as a very bitter fanboi

please tell me how me plain jane acceleration times were ever meant to be demonstration of handling/all round ability, or anything other than acceleration?

if we do look at it in terms of acceleration, the rx8 sadly gets trounced in every possible way and returns such poor fuel consumption its a complete write off in terms of being a sensible ownership consideration

as for handling, thats all well and good, but given how the cars are so neglected theyre blowing up left right and centre, i highly highly doubt any of the owners have actually bothered to maintain the suspension at all, so you can bank on the handling being shot to pieces too

nice try etc etc
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You are joking right? Check how many RX8's there are on the roads still.

You also seem to forget that mazda has a decent boot and more seats and doors?

It hardly gets trounced either.
 
matt82 considering your enthusiasm for cars and your own M3 project I thought you would have given the RX8 more credit rather than just out right slating it.
 
NathWraith said:
matt82 considering your enthusiasm for cars and your own M3 project I thought you would have given the RX8 more credit rather than just out right slating it.
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I don't actually think its a bad car at all. Earlier in the thread I posted some acceleration times to add some context to the Honda comparison but the running man felt the need to be all big man about it in the post of his I quoted up there

He must own one
 
Only reason the rotary is inefficient is lack of development, only mazda are doing it, imagine where it would be if all manufacturers were developing it. There is a lot of potential there i think. They definitly need forced induction as well IMO, unless your thinking of a quad rotor.
 
RX8 vs s2000, really?

Aside from the fact that one carries an extra two people and has a proper roof.. they are similar :-S

I own an RX8.. i bet 90% of the people ****ging them off on here haven't even sat in one let alone drove one..
 
JonnyGeee said:
RX8 vs s2000, really?

Aside from the fact that one carries an extra two people and has a proper roof.. they are similar :-S

I own an RX8.. i bet 90% of the people ****ging them off on here haven't even sat in one let alone drove one..
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I've driven and owned one.

Please place me within the 10.00%
 
robj20 said:
Only reason the rotary is inefficient is lack of development, only mazda are doing it, imagine where it would be if all manufacturers were developing it. There is a lot of potential there i think. They definitly need forced induction as well IMO, unless your thinking of a quad rotor.
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I thought mazda are still developing it and plan on using it Hybrid cars?
 
They are which is why i said "only Mazda are doing it", piston engines are being developed by all car makers look how petrol engines have caught up with diesels in the last couple of years, for econemy any way.
 
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