Is the Premiership getting boring? And some suggestions to help

Yeah but we dont spent £20m on crap like Liverpool did with Keane, we basically bought an entire squad.

Yeah but you spent bucket loads, wasnt the distincly average Milner close to 15 mill?

Its not a money issue imo.I would like to see a wages cap and teams encouraged to bring in more youth, the last round of changes to rules regarding youth setups meant, clubs like united, and others, couldnt look for local playyers and instead went for youngsters abroad.
 
for me salary caps or picking from a draft like american football/nhl would be the most obvious ones to make it more interesting

Very interesting article on the beeb if i manage to find it, explaining how all money is shared throughout the league. Seems to work really well and American football certainly doesn't seem to have been limited by money for good infrstructure, stadiums and quality of play. :)

even so, wait till Man City and Portsmouth boost themselves up to make a top 6, and if Villa, Everton and Spurs keep improving then we have a league on our hands! Don't forget QPR are getting silly money too, so maybe when/if/once they get promoted they can challenge. :D

This supposed Big 4 hasn't been around too long. Newcastle and leeds were both viewed as being more likley to make the top 5/6 than chelsea 6+ years ago
 
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I wouldn't say its boring but you can predict and pick your games but we have the "big 4" all going for the glory, only one team an win and everybody is running a business and they need to make a profit, I think its wrong that teams like Man United and Liverpool can be bought but be in debt and trade with mega money.

Look at West Ham and Newcastle, both are in debt and close to administration.

Also Setanta going bust is just another nail in the coffin on TV money, bring clubs down to working from reasonable tv money and cost from selling tickets and merchandise.
 
I was actually talking to the other half about this just the other day.

I believe that the Champions League should be just that - a European league for the Champions of the respective countries. None of this letting four teams in - just one from each of the leagues, with a qualifying round if necessary. Then four groups of four, top two to a last 8, then knockout to the final.

Then the next best placed teams should go in the UEFA Cup, how many places are offered would depend on the amount of leagues etc. but it should be fair and give clubs something to fight over. Plus it would bring some much needed prestige back to a competition that's dying a slow death.

And the Cup Winners' Cup should never have been disbanded, it should have been offered to the domestic cup winners from the various countries - in our case, FA Cup and League Cup.

I think that would shake things up as it would mean the big four would push harder to win the league and secure that one spot in the Champions League.
 
I was actually talking to the other half about this just the other day.

I believe that the Champions League should be just that - a European league for the Champions of the respective countries. None of this letting four teams in - just one from each of the leagues, with a qualifying round if necessary. Then four groups of four, top two to a last 8, then knockout to the final.

just a horrible idea, teams have gone out in the group stages from the big three leagues(spain, england, italy) in the group stages because of the other quality in the other leagues. if you have one team per league the champs league would amount to, well, you'd end up with the same enjoyment from a "league" as the semi-finals and the final. Every single year you'd have a spanish, english team in the semi's, along with two from france, italy, germany and a couple others.

The reason you need more than one good team from each league is, its a champions league, not well, essentially what you're proposing in the world champions cup thing that Utd were in, which no one watched, no one cared about and was utter crap.


People say things, its been a big four, no longer can you get lucky and break the top 4. What crap, people were saying that for 5 years BEFORE Ipswich came out of nowhere for a year, we've had a dominant group for decades, that group changes slowly over time.

Arsenal are fast dropping down the pecking order, and only by other managers complete screw up's did we not lose it. Villa were great, until for no apparent reason O'Neill decided to completely change his winning team and formation, by changing formation and the team he started, it didn't win, for ages, but he didn't seem to notice. I think they one a single game in all competitions in like 16 games, dropped a ridiculous number of points, and well. It wasn't that the top 4 was so far clear this year, it was that Villa, Everton, Spurs all cocked up multiple times. Everton cocked up in not having a quality striker and injuries, Spurs and Villa shot themselves in the foot, all 3 are fully capable of breaking the top 4. City are slowly rebuilding, this season is a starter to build on, they simply didn't have time from the take over to buy the squad they needed. Remember that Chelsea got their money a year before Mourinho got there, they spent before he got there and had been spending for YEARS before Ranieri started to spend the Ruski's money.

City haven't had that lead in time, they will move up and will buy players that will bring them up to challenging for the title, looks like Pompie might have the cash to do similarly. Villa are moving forwards, Everton are moving forwards.

The next 2-3 years are set to be the most competitive with the hardest push on the top 3/4 in the past 5 years.
 
The reason you need more than one good team from each league is, its a champions league, not well, essentially what you're proposing in the world champions cup thing that Utd were in, which no one watched, no one cared about and was utter crap.

1.) That isn't what he's saying
2.) The first bit makes no sense.
 
Yeah it is. It'd end up with a pile of crap teams from random leagues who no one would care about like Brondby etc at the expense of the likes of Chelsea, Liverpool, AC Milan, Real Madrid etc.

Just like the World Club Cup is no one would care as much
 
The League is in our country, and our national side is being affected in a negative way because of this, the influx of foreign players is stunting the growth of our home grown players and our national side.

England will not win the world cup with things like this.
The ENGLISH Premier League, is more of an internation league.

Congrats into buying into UEFA and FIFA Propaganda.
Theres plenty of english talent at the youth acadamey's of the top 4 clubs.
Next to none make it.
Why? because the typical english talent is crap, and you cant tell me they've recieved worse training then a foreign player at the same acadamy surely?
Sorry, Anton Ferdinand and the likes are never gonna make it, the lack the natural talent and football intelect to make it in the top tier of sides. Being trained by god himself wont change this.
Then theres the typical "above average" english player who demands insane wages and treatment 'because im english' (Owen springs to mind), and clubs wanting a premium on transfer fees for english players, and you wonder why clubs look elsewhere.

The PL is brilliant as it is.
The same 4 just perm the top place each year but that happens in all the other major leagues in Europe pretty much.
It's widely regarded as the best league in the world now by fans, players, ex players, managers, pundits, the media and TV companies so why change it?

Nail on head, it never stopped spain winning the euro's dispite a similar home nationality vs Foreign balance when comparing barca or RM to United or Chelsea.



Im all for a home-grown ruling (4? players on a starting 11 who spent 4 years between 12 and 18 at the club in questions acadamy) if any such thing has to be introduced. But home nationality 6+5 is madness, ill stop watching the PL when average championship quality english players end up in the PL because of their nationality, over skill.
 
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Yeah it is. It'd end up with a pile of crap teams from random leagues who no one would care about like Brondby etc at the expense of the likes of Chelsea, Liverpool, AC Milan, Real Madrid etc.

Just like the World Club Cup is no one would care as much


The world club cup is a tiny amount of teams from around the world. This is the champions of Europe. So yes there would be a difference. Surely the likes of Chelsea, Liverpool, AC Milan, Real Madrid should be good enough to win their league? It would stop teams like Liverpool (not this season) putting in the minimum effort in their league to qualify for the 'Champions' League and then putting everything into the Europe games.
 
I'd love to be be a fan of a top 4 club, or even a Villa or Spurs fan. Sadly I'm an Everton fan and as mucnh as David Moyes has worked miracles with what he has available, we're juust never going to get the amount of money needed to actually have a *squad*.

Look at Sundays cup final. The Everton team pretty much picked itself as those were the only players we had available. Our bench was full of kids and cheap has beens as that's all we can afford. The premiership isn't boring if you ignore the top 4 entirely, but the Champions League money has completely ruined the PL for the rest of the teams.
 
People say things, its been a big four, no longer can you get lucky and break the top 4. What crap, people were saying that for 5 years BEFORE Ipswich came out of nowhere for a year, we've had a dominant group for decades, that group changes slowly over time.

Rubbish, in 15 out of 16 seasons in the EPL, the current top 4 have won the premier league between them, look at how much Liverpool can spend and even they can't win the league, look where Ipswich and Leeds/Newcastle, all teams that went to match the big boys and got it all wrong, chairmen are scared to spend big and big wages because if it goes wrong the FA wont be their to help them.
 
Money has ruined football in this country and until the interest dies and the money men leave then that will remain the case. Those who have lots will never allow a system to be put inplace whereby it is divided more evenly amony the rest. Sadly the TV audiences don't show any real sign of a slump and thats what is needed to sort out the money, the premiership money with it's ever increasing divide to the championship has recked league football and the champions league with it's silly sums has ruined the premiership.
 
Rubbish, in 15 out of 16 seasons in the EPL, the current top 4 have won the premier league between them

But isn't that the case for every major league across Europe? How many different teams have won La Liga in the last 15 years? How many Serie A?
 
Rubbish, in 15 out of 16 seasons in the EPL, the current top 4 have won the premier league between them, look at how much Liverpool can spend and even they can't win the league, look where Ipswich and Leeds/Newcastle, all teams that went to match the big boys and got it all wrong, chairmen are scared to spend big and big wages because if it goes wrong the FA wont be their to help them.

it was hardly a different team winning it every season before the PL began.
 
Score draws worth 2 points.

You heard it here first!

If anything, make it 3 points for a win, with every goal beyond a one-goal win worth an extra point.

That way we might see the end of 'Arry and his patented 6-3-0 formation.
 
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