Is there a scale to "love"?

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I went out for dinner with some friends last week and the topic of love came up (following a conversation about the universe which was mind bending).

We were exploring whether or not saying "I love you" means the same to different people, or if you mean it in the same way towards different recipients. Also what the cultural elements are. Some countries use it sparingly, some use it pretty much all the time, some it is shown overtly others in a more reserved way.

Personally I feel that the word changes based on the person receiving it and the person saying it.

i.e. I have children, and the love for them is somewhat different to the love I have for my wife. Similarly the love I have for my wife is different to that of my parents and siblings. And again towards friends and other members of the family etc...

It is 1 word that carries a lot of nuance (I guess most words do to a certain degree?), and it depends on context, and when it is said. i.e. a drunken "I love you" to the person you're dating after a week is probably less impactful that sharing a life altering event like a wedding, childbirth, etc...

A couple of my friends were adamant that it's a word and should be used in the context / purpose that it was, and that if you say the word love in a different context it "lessens" the word. I sort of get it, but then I'm also of the view that context / situation matters.

I mean I love my kids to a level that's actually an overwhelming visceral experience. If that's not love what is it? They said it's more complicated than love as they are "flesh and blood" and there's a bond that goes beyond love. I kinda get it, but does that mean there isn't a word to describe the love for your own kids?

I then said, what about my friends (life-long friends) there's love there. The sort of love where you'd travel across the world to be there for them. They said, that's a different bond, it's an intellectual, life experience bond, shared hardship and pleasure over years of time. However, I argued that surely it's just a different level of love. They said, no it's friendship, you care for each other, but love is different.

To be honest they made some good arguments but I can't entirely remember all of them! It was a fun evening ;)

Ultimately for me if you can spread love and nice words like love rather than anything else it's a win in my book! However I guess their point was if you weaken the impact of the word it has less of an effect?

Yes, I have weird conversations with my friends...
 
Interesting thread, and something I have been struggling with a lot myself recently at identifying the depth of my feelings with someone and the impact that will have on a relationship. Which I think is something a little bit different than yours. Personally I would go with the Greek approach and just label it somewhat differently. I can love my siblings and it will always be a different (and in my eyes more powerful) form of love than friends.

 
Some people express love via their actions rather than words. The action comes from love/the heart etc.
 
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Honestly, yes I think there is definitely a scale of love. I love my wife and kids (and maybe my nieces) to such degree that I'd sacrifice myself for them. For my parents / siblings, I'd probably give them a kidney / other organs but may not take a bullet for them.

For my handful of close friends, I would probably give them material wealth if they were in need, but not sacrifice myself / organs, the type of friendship where you don't want to see them come to harm etc.
 
Great topic!

Love is definitely different for the individual and between individuals

Sometimes I love my gf less (like if we are going through a tough spell) or more.. The relationship is particularly good.
Also use the word for family, for dog, for hobbies, even colour.


Really, we should probably have different words for love in the current context.

I could fall out of love with gf.. But I doubt I'll ever fall out of love for kayaking.
But those two loves are very different.

I could stop loving my dog if he turned savage. But short of that no. Same. With family. If my family turned into psychos, I wouldn't love them.

So for me no love is unconditional I suppose. I know many say it is for thier kids.. But what if your kid turned into the next Hitler?
 
So for me no love is unconditional I suppose. I know many say it is for their kids.. But what if your kid turned into the next Hitler?
if only!

Living with a non native speaker of English there's often confusion saying things like how much i love the taste of bacon or i love seeing car crashes.

I guess love should be a more sacred word but these days, like most words its true meaning is diluted, repurposed and more casually used.

My wifes developed a london accent because of me and her english is probably better than mine tbh so she does get the weirdness of the english language 99% of the time".
 
Great topic!

Love is definitely different for the individual and between individuals

Sometimes I love my gf less (like if we are going through a tough spell) or more.. The relationship is particularly good.
Also use the word for family, for dog, for hobbies, even colour.


Really, we should probably have different words for love in the current context.

I could fall out of love with gf.. But I doubt I'll ever fall out of love for kayaking.
But those two loves are very different.

I could stop loving my dog if he turned savage. But short of that no. Same. With family. If my family turned into psychos, I wouldn't love them.

So for me no love is unconditional I suppose. I know many say it is for thier kids.. But what if your kid turned into the next Hitler?

What would happen to your love of kayaking if you suffered a shoulder or lower back injury that basically made it impossible for you to paddle without being in pain (or God forbid, arthritis when we are in our silver years?). I think you'd definitely stop loving the sport in that situation.
 
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