Is this desperate?

Cookeh · 13 Jan 2011 at 17:58

Ch3m1c4L said:
If its just that they are worried about you gaming all the time, you shold argue the point that they should let you prove to them that you can control yourself, and if it turns out you cant, its better to find out now as that way they could take it away from you and give you the old one back. If they wait until you go to uni and you have no experience with self control and no one potentionally on yer back about it, you will be much more likely to fail and just dos around more.

This may or may not be true, but its a good argument for getting it now. You have to face challanges and actually experience them, the earlier the better, and in safer environments. That way when you are out on your own in the real world with no one to turn to, you already know how to deal withe verything/things like not gaming all day are already a habit etc.

Funny story.

Already had the trial crap. Got straight As at GCSE with 4 A*s thrown in. I didn't do any work.

For AS, parents said no to gaming so could focus on studies. Did very little work, no gaming, got 3 Bs and a C (should have been As if I wasn't lazy).

This year, A2, parents said no gaming, but I got fed up, "sneak" on for around an hour a day BUT work a lot harder (still not as much as I could - I need motivation xD). So far getting As and Bs in exams.

Question is, how can they still use argument of gaming ruining life when it clearly isn't? But parents still believe that gaming is making me get bad grades.

Ah well, regarding what I'm going to do, I dunno.

Its either wait for uni or kill mobo (killing cpu seems to have too many links to damaging rest of pc).

Think that before I implement either of these I'll wait until Tuesday and use the "18, my money, etc" argument. If that fails I'll have to do a toss up between the two remaining options I guess.

Ch3m1c4L · 13 Jan 2011 at 18:10

So its already proven its not gaming thats ruining your life. Have they thought about the fact that it might be the over controlling nature they ahve that isnt allowing you to spend your free time how you would like to, and as such relaxing you, which in turn means you will be able to concentrate better while your studying? Since that way when you finish studying and feel you have learned x then you can reward yourself and relax with a little gaming rather than just being bored.

Bordem breeds lazyness, the less I do, the less I cba to do, up to the point where I even stopped gaming and just watched TV/went out and got drunk. After forcing myself to game again (sc2 came out) I instantly got happier in life, more motivated to actuall do things that were worthwhile etc.

Are you a first/only child? It seems to me that they dont understand you (what parents ever do lol) and you would be pretty good sitting down and explaining all of the situation to them, about how you didnt do any work before etc and it wasnt due to gaming. Make sure not to get argumentative in this convo though, as that isntantly causes problems and stops anyone hearing what you have to say.

GCSE's are **** easy, I too didnt do any work and got good grades, AS however my lack of work and going to the pub didnt work so well - maths and physics are hard when you dnt do any work and miss lectures, and computing I failed as I was pedantic about the exam papers being out of date lmao.

What else do you do in your free time? Do you go out, read forums a lot or chat rooms or something? Cause you can use that as an argument, since your game time will come out of that, not your study time since you arent a fool and you want to get somewhere with your life, which your not going to be able to do if they dont let you have any control over your situation. I mean, if your not learning how to manage money now (they're telling you how to etc) then how the fsk will you do it at uni?

Cookeh · 13 Jan 2011 at 18:43

While proven, they still believe it. Which is a bugger.

I have a twin sister a minute older. Far less strict on her (but that's probs not true, just what I see).

In my free time (what little there is, as always being told don't work enough) I pla the sax and piano, go cycling when weather is better, and yes, go on this forum, browse tech websites and RSC (Royal Society of Chemistry) for publications which may interest me.

Im actually very decent at managing money, managed to reduce spending so always have minimum of £250 on debit card, and I never touch my bank account - don't want to ruin interest.

In two years of owning this PC I've had to replace a graphics card, and a PSU. Effectively spent £120 on completely obselete equipment which would have let me get more than halfway to a new PC now.

I may try that point (gaming would come out of that time, so not actually affecting amount of time working, and means relax part).

Ch3m1c4L · 13 Jan 2011 at 18:54

Yea, im just trying to give you more points you may not have thought about that you can discuss with them, I know some wont apply but its worth haaving them available, as it is entirely possible they ahvent thought about it either, or tried to look at the situation from your point of view. They may well have other reasons for wanting you to save, and have just not told/explained them to you, but since they haven't it makes it seem that they are just giving a "flat no" and as such seems unreasonable to you.

Cookeh · 13 Jan 2011 at 19:11

Ch3m1c4L said:
Yea, im just trying to give you more points you may not have thought about that you can discuss with them, I know some wont apply but its worth haaving them available, as it is entirely possible they ahvent thought about it either, or tried to look at the situation from your point of view. They may well have other reasons for wanting you to save, and have just not told/explained them to you, but since they haven't it makes it seem that they are just giving a "flat no" and as such seems unreasonable to you.

It is indeed worth having them, and opens up different points of view.

It is possible they have other reasons, but the only reason I can think of (related to us going skiing in feb, and me paying for my ski rental and lift passes) I've already brought up and discussed.

Slap · 13 Jan 2011 at 19:11

Cookeh said:
I have a job, I can earn £100 a day in a shift. I have over £450. Money is no issue

Have you considered/is it possible for you to move out and rent a flat or something? Man I would be out of there like a shot if had that option...Think of all the stress-free "studying and relaxing" you could be getting on with, not to mention having your own space and life...If you do have that option and are in a position to afford it/make it happen, what are you waitting for? It's your call bro...it seems quite clear from what you say that your parents are stuck in there ways. Given half the chance I would be out of there like a shot.
Good luck either way

Peace

S!ap

Yulaw · 13 Jan 2011 at 19:15

Show them this thread.

Cookeh · 13 Jan 2011 at 19:15

Slap said:
Have you considered/is it possible for you to move out and rent a flat or something? Man I would be out of there like a shot if had that option...Think of all the stress-free "studying and relaxing" you could be getting on with, not to mention having your own space and life...If you do have that option and are in a position to afford it/make it happen, what are you waitting for? It's your call bro...it seems quite clear from what you say that your parents are stuck in there ways. Given half the chance I would be out of there like a shot.
Good luck either way

Peace

S!ap

I have considered it, but I can't always get a shift (work for the NHS as a HCA - means I have to fight for shifts, and have to balance work with school work, study and other factors.

Moving out would also mean I loose a main method of transportation

D) and I have to cover rent, electricity, furnishings, internet, tutors and driving lessons. Considering parents spend £85 a week on tutors for me and my sis (collectively, not each) I don't think I can afford to move out.

Murray · 13 Jan 2011 at 19:27

Yulaw said:
Show them this thread.

Sleeve · 13 Jan 2011 at 19:34

Mate, man the **** up. Jesus christ, never read something so pathetic.

Could understand if you were 13-14. But almost 18!?!? Come on!

AHarvey · 13 Jan 2011 at 19:35

I've kind of skipped through the thread so I have no idea if you've said they are PC competent or not, however, I once managed to somehow put a screwdriver into a PSU taht was plugged in but PC was switched off and it blew.

I thought the whole PC had fried but it turns out it was just the fuse in the lead, didn't figure that out until I'd forked out £80 on a new PSU though.

So, take the fuse out of the cable and replace it with a blown one?

Maybe replace it with a real low power fuse, then get one of the parents to switch it on, see if that makes it go pop? Then you can blame them

Sleeve88 said:
Mate, man the **** up. Jesus christ, never read something so pathetic.

Could understand if you were 13-14. But almost 18!?!? Come on!

These posts are pathetic. Nothing useful to add to the thread at all and just come in to slate someone who is going about something a cack handed way but because they don't want all out war with what seem like extremely over protective parents!

LEUVEN · 13 Jan 2011 at 19:35

I remember when I was 18 and built my first PC (bought one for just over 1K the year before from PC **** which was crap so needed to upgrade)
I recall asking my Dad one question: Could I have a lift to local PC component shop?

Quite shocking that they are telling YOU how to spend YOUR money as others have said, it's not like you're asking them to buy it for you. :confused:

Maybe hit them over the head with the PC and kill two birds with one stone.

shadow_boxer · 13 Jan 2011 at 19:38

AHarvey said:
Maybe replace it with a real low power fuse, then get one of the parents to switch it on, see if that makes it go pop? Then you can blame them

Oh yes...I think we have a winner!

Cookeh · 13 Jan 2011 at 19:57

shadow_boxer said:
Oh yes...I think we have a winner!

Haha, might be worth a shot, if for no other reason then listening to them try and back their way out of it

RE everyone telling me to man up, what's the point in that statement? Not at all helpful and I assure you I've been there and done that many a time.

I want to avoid confrontation and argument as the last time I broached this subject that way it got to the stage where I was within a millimetre of being kicked out (literally, my suitcase was open on my bed when I got back from school).

Sleeve · 13 Jan 2011 at 20:04

Cookeh said:
Haha, might be worth a shot, if for no other reason then listening to them try and back their way out of it

RE everyone telling me to man up, what's the point in that statement? Not at all helpful and I assure you I've been there and done that many a time.

I want to avoid confrontation and argument as the last time I broached this subject that way it got to the stage where I was within a millimetre of being kicked out (literally, my suitcase was open on my bed when I got back from school).

What, because you wanted to spend your own money on yourself? Do you not see the weirdness of your situation.

Im not trying to insult you, if anything i feel sorry for you.

Trusty · 13 Jan 2011 at 20:08

Yeah i feel sorry for you aswell pal, i don't see why their treating you like this when it's your money. You should show them this thread to be honest!

Cookeh · 13 Jan 2011 at 20:25

Sleeve88 said:
What, because you wanted to spend your own money on yourself? Do you not see the weirdness of your situation.

Im not trying to insult you, if anything i feel sorry for you.

I see its very weird. Hence the thread

I don't know why they're acting like this, perhaps there is a true reason behind it all, perhaps not.

Cookeh · 13 Jan 2011 at 20:29

Trusty said:
Yeah i feel sorry for you aswell pal, i don't see why their treating you like this when it's your money. You should show them this thread to be honest!

I would, but fear I'd get the argument "They're all sad no-lifers spending their life on their computers" or similar.

They might through something original in and say what have they done with their lives, how many went to uni, etc.

Which ofc, would lead me back to square one.

Slap · 13 Jan 2011 at 20:34

Cookeh said:
I have considered it, but I can't always get a shift (work for the NHS as a HCA - means I have to fight for shifts, and have to balance work with school work, study and other factors.

Moving out would also mean I loose a main method of transportation D) and I have to cover rent, electricity, furnishings, internet, tutors and driving lessons. Considering parents spend £85 a week on tutors for me and my sis (collectively, not each) I don't think I can afford to move out.

Yea not an easy call for sure..Living at home with parents does have its drawbacks when it comes to personal space and freedom regardless...But you have to remember your parents are just people like your good self..They somehow managed to move on and forge a life of there own and upgraded there PC's when required

. If it makes sense for you not to move out at this moment in time and put up with their ways then that's cool, you obviously have the intellect and education to work around it I think. Just do it (whether it be by way of a friend, lying to them, placating them, setting them up in a Overclockers.co.uk PC upgrade sting, taking them out once and for all, "man-ing up", reasoning with them, seeing a counselor, getting your tutors to have some input into the reasons why it's crucial for you to upgrade for your educational needs etc etc).

I must admit that I admire you honesty in coming out with your current predicament...If I had to give any further advice I would say just be honest to yourself and them because at the end of the day that is all you have in life: your self-worth and morals to live by and you must always stick up for them because that's what defines who you are and that's ultimately all you really have to go by regardless of education/money/position... Life is to short m8 weather you be 18 or 78.

Desperate upgrade? Hell yea baby !

Slap · 13 Jan 2011 at 20:35