Is This Normal Behaviour For A HID Kit?

Those are clearly at least 8000k, I have 6000k in my motorcycle and they are perfectly white (in projector lenses).

Throw them all away and get some Osram bulbs from halfords.
 
Vince said:
I think that without the correct self leveling kit etc that these should be banned. I am constantly getting cars with badly fitted cheap kits shining me in the eyes, normally by some chav either in a golf or a chaved up civic. Besides the fact that they don't work the only place for them is the bin. A decent set of bulbs will set you back more than this kit, perhaps this is an indication of the quality of it?
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Afaik they are arent they? Without self levelers and diffusers, although i have no actual referential basis for thinking that.
 
adolf hamster said:
Afaik they are arent they? Without self levelers and diffusers, although i have no actual referential basis for thinking that.
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No idea, I know that they shouldn't pass an MOT but 9 times out of 10 they seem to get overlooked. All I know is that on a bumpy road in a car that is as low as mine, somebody driving behind with these fitted and no levelers etc it looks like they are constantly flashing me blinding me as they go over the bumps. It's even worse if they are oncoming and frankly half the time seems like they are just driving at you with full beams on. Horrible things!
 
Are those 8000k?

It'll be the crappy quality ballasts, at £18 it's not surprising. You shouldn't really fit HID or LED in reflectors either...

In fairness though, I'd take oncoming HID's over the ridiculous lights some of the new minis and range rovers have...
 
adolf hamster said:
Afaik they are arent they? Without self levelers and diffusers, although i have no actual referential basis for thinking that.
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I think as long as it passes the MOT beam test you're OK.

Hopefully the Police start pulling the numpties running eBay HID kits in old tat and lighting up the sky. I'm seeing more of them on the roads unfortunately.
 
Technically it's a legal requirement (I believe - to do with type approval regulations) for self levelling and washing functions to be fitted if the output is over a certain number of lumens, but an MOT only requires them to work if fitted. If the beam pattern is all over the place and/or the colour is way off, they'll fail for that.

It's hard to judge the colour of the lamps in the OP, since his camera will undoubtedly not be metering the light accurately. One thing's for sure though: the £18 eBay kit is fit for the bin.
 
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Vince said:
No idea, I know that they shouldn't pass an MOT but 9 times out of 10 they seem to get overlooked. All I know is that on a bumpy road in a car that is as low as mine, somebody driving behind with these fitted and no levelers etc it looks like they are constantly flashing me blinding me as they go over the bumps. It's even worse if they are oncoming and frankly half the time seems like they are just driving at you with full beams on. Horrible things!
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Many things get overlooked, round here there's a line in cars with no suspension or badly fitted airbags and straight through pipes managing to pass mot.

Worst i heard of was a fella who had a 1.2 corsa that mot'd on the original engine then spent the rest of the year with a 2l in it.

New cars have no excuse though, surely the manufacturers must realise the problem they're creating.
 
adolf hamster said:
Worst i heard of was a fella who had a 1.2 corsa that mot'd on the original engine then spent the rest of the year with a 2l in it.
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It's allowed. The MOT might last for a year, but there's nothing to stop you swapping parts after it. You'd have to get pulled and issued with a prohibition notice.

My neighbour has an Elise S1. It runs a decat and sports exhaust 11 months and 20 odd days a year, and gets the factory bits installed for the week of the MOT so it passes emissions...
 
Si105 said:
Are those 8000k?

It'll be the crappy quality ballasts, at £18 it's not surprising. You shouldn't really fit HID or LED in reflectors either...

In fairness though, I'd take oncoming HID's over the ridiculous lights some of the new minis and range rovers have...
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I think one of those new peugeot 5 something has silly headlights. If one is behind you from far, the lights actually look that blue I've mistaken them for police lights.
 
adolf hamster said:
Many things get overlooked, round here there's a line in cars with no suspension or badly fitted airbags and straight through pipes managing to pass mot.

Worst i heard of was a fella who had a 1.2 corsa that mot'd on the original engine then spent the rest of the year with a 2l in it.

New cars have no excuse though, surely the manufacturers must realise the problem they're creating.
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Size of the engine has nothing to do with the MOT though?


Oh and self-levellers will do nothing to prevent the beam from bouncing witht he car, they only react pretty slowly. Just because it's self levelling doesn't mean it's at the correct height either, they still need to be set/calibrated correctly.
 
MagicBoy said:
It's allowed. The MOT might last for a year, but there's nothing to stop you swapping parts after it. You'd have to get pulled and issued with a prohibition notice.

My neighbour has an Elise S1. It runs a decat and sports exhaust 11 months and 20 odd days a year, and gets the factory bits installed for the week of the MOT so it passes emissions...
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I thought if your car was not in mot'able condition when on the road that was illegal?

For example if you mot and immediately after your tyres wear to bald then you cant get away with leaving that.

Also isnt the engine serialised to the chassis and a key part of tax/insurance documention, neither of which was changed in this case, i've known folk to swap engines legit (my uncle did it on his 307) who say the hassle really isnt worth it.
 
adolf hamster said:
Also isnt the engine serialised to the chassis and a key part of tax/insurance documention, neither of which was changed in this case, i've known folk to swap engines legit (my uncle did it on his 307) who say the hassle really isnt worth it.
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Engine number has nothing to do with the MOT or insurance. Engine number in my Nissan doesn't match the log book, who cares though.
 
If that is a MK1 focus and you want Xenons then at least do it properly and retrofit ST170 Projector headlights & wire the levellers up.

Just be prepared to spend a good £300 and some time altering your wiring loom if it's anything like doing it on the same era MK3 Mondeo.

There is a few pairs of headlights on ebay at the moment ranging from £90-£200, i'd replace the bulbs too which are £100+ last time I bought some.
 
Just get some Philips Xtreme Vision plus bulbs from Amazon for like £16 and enjoy significantly better lights that don't dazzle everyone else or mess with your cars electronics. I bet that HID kit will also make your radio all crackly.
 
Gaygle said:
Just get some Philips Xtreme Vision plus bulbs from Amazon for like £16 and enjoy significantly better lights that don't dazzle everyone else or mess with your cars electronics. I bet that HID kit will also make your radio all crackly.
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Absolutely this, I've had a massive improvement by shoving these into my Fiesta (also H4 bulbs like the OP). If someone wants Xenons/LEDs, they need to buy a car that had them factory fit.
 
some dumbass following me a couple of nights back, back road and it just looked like it was flashing me the whole way down. really really obnoxious.

presumably it was just an aftermarket hid kit as they were very blue, i've also never seen 'proper' hids cause the same amount of flashing.
 
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