Is this OLED screen-burn worth bothering about?

[juno_first]

I've been really careful with my LG 55E6 for over a year & surprisingly video gaming hasn't affected it & I don't watch normal TV anyway.
However, the native YouTube app has caused some very minor burn-in from the red logo at the top left which I didn't know existed until trying a magenta test image. Interestingly, the YouTube app has a 2minute screensaver, so the burn-in must be from when taking the time to choose a video or the repetitive exposure to the same static image. I never thought that just the colour of this logo would cause screen-burn & have always been careful not to allow High contrast static images to persist on the panel.
I've always used extra bright room (100% OLED light) as these TV's are not very bright or dark room picture settings.
The TV has a really good 5% grey too so it's deffo a keeper.

I reckon app makers should make specific OLED friendly apps, especially considering the increasing popularity of OLED TV's now. An OLED app should have no hard contrast edges or hard colour shifts as with the YouTube logo, perhaps blur any hard edges or reduce the contrast of the UI?

I don't think this burn-in is impacting my viewing pleasure as it can't be seen normally + where it is, so I'm not going to do anything about it for now. Plus LG no longer make 3D panels & any replacement panel would have no 3D, although be 10% brighter due to having no polarizing filter, but won't be able take advantage of newer TV tone mapping abilities as its still run by the same hardware. LG no longer make 3D panels! This is such a shame as the passive 3D on OLED is awesome.
I've been a paying £7/month service plan with Currys but doubt they'd go as far as a cash replacement (due to losing 3D).

What do you good folks think?
I now watch YouTube in the dark room setting to try & reduce any further damage, but think this burn-in is just going to get worse as I watch a lot of YouTube with having the premium version with music -highly recommended!

 

[juno_first]

I presume the TV runs its own cleaning cycle every night after switching off as I leave it plugged in. I'm going force a manual clean now, also look at rtings test patterns, thanks.
Static image recognition does sound like an awesome feature for OLED, has anyone got a newer OLED TV to prove this? Imagine it when playing video games though... arrgh where's my health bar! Haha
I fear though that every OLED TV in the World is being damaged by the YouTube app? Maybe external devices could have an OLED setting to make static images less damaging to OLED's?
It would be a shame to return this TV & lose 3D as I've built up a nice collection of 3D discs. If even it could be returned.

 

[juno_first]

From what I've learned about general OLED burn-in is the higher the brightness the sooner burn-in will appear, but even at 60% OLED brightness burn-in will eventually happen. Plus red OLED pixels damage sooner, which is why newer OLED TV's have bigger red pixels.

One thing I've noticed with my YouTube logo burn-in is that the edges of the logo are very sharp. This means the TV pixel shifting feature (always turned on) had zero effect on stopping this burn-in as the logo must have only been present for brief periods, which makes sense while using the YouTube app, or the burn-in happened during 1 sitting -which is bad news for static image detectors. Plus the red pixels are more suscepible to burn-in... just bad luck YouTube are forcing the brightest most saturated red colour they can.

 

[juno_first]

Wow, that burn-in is bad. Even though you can't make out the words over some images the colour is certainly worse.
My previous TV was a Samsung 8000 from 2015 which actually displayed better colours in HDR. Although it was plagued with black being grey & even having side projecting LED's movie letterboxes were awful.
There's a term where once you go OLED you never go back & I still agree with that even now, as my burn-in is a lesson learned in using apps & can be prevented in the future.
I've played a lot of games in HDR on this OLED which has caused no burn-in, just 1 app slipped through the net.
2 screen cleans have not changed the burn-in & I now fear the colour red will not be as saturated in that area or the logo will appear under the right conditions when watching something else.
The thing is, after you've watched OLED, especially a HDR film in a dark room, there is no going back. Even Star Trek Discovery in a reduced 1080p Dolby Vision is a sight to behold (1080p being a restriction forced by CBS on Netflix in the UK). All LCD TV's look muddy in comparison.
My next TV will be OLED, although YouTube maybe consigned to a nearby LCD.

[The TV is near a window so needs a higher brightness in the daytime, plus I find anything lower than 80% OLED light makes the image too dark. Although dark room at 40% is fine in a dark room. Maybe its the 3D polarizer reducing brightness by 10%? Also a lower OLED light value will only slow down screen-burn]

 

[juno_first]

Yes its the 2016 LG 55" E6 with built in sound bar & flat screen, 3D is good & have a few films but its not a deal breaker. It was £2200 in April 2017, crikey I've had it over 2yrs. It was either this or a B6 & I just managed afford the E6.
Before the E6 I thought about a KS9000 but it didn't seem much an upgrade from the 8000 so tried a 2x Panasonic DX902 FALD. Both had a terrible dirty screen effect & with HDR games you could see the backlight squares follow any light sources.

As far as I can tell this screen-burn is not visible in normal viewing at the moment so I'm not using the YouTube app on this TV anymore, or until YouTube make their app OLED friendly. TBH it was a pain to enable max energy saving to dim the screen when listening to YouTube music which I do a lot.
This now makes the Roku4k redundant as its sole purpose in life was YouTube HDR, so I'm now using an old 10" tablet (Toshiba Excite Pro) purely for YouTube & will cast YouTube music to the Roku & bypass the TV optical out to amp (Logitech z5500 digital) by plugging the Roku into a HDMI audio splitter with phono digital to the same amp.

Maybe I can eek out a while longer with this app damaged E6 until getting another OLED. A shame it can no longer use YouTube, nor I'd say can any other OLED TV until the app is made OLED friendly.

 

[juno_first]

Well some people prefer LCD, others OLED. They both have their faults & benefits.
I'd hope newer OLED's have better handling of burn-in as they're becoming cheaper & more popular too.
If newer OLED's also suffer from burn-in with a common app like YouTube then it's very worrying for all OLED users who watch YouTube.
It's a shame everyone has abandoned 3D though.

 

[juno_first]

And what are you doing browsing via the TV app!

Do that on the phone and cast it onto the TV.

Yeah, I'm now using a tablet as a 2nd screen with YouTube Music & don't even need the TV to be on. Just a shame the Roku4k is throttling YouTube Music so it very often buffers & stutters, though don't have to keep seeing the Roku display network connection problem in music (but is able play 4k HDR). The RokuHD is fine though.
Going start casting YouTube to the TV from a Jellybean tablet lol (curse Toshiba for locking the bootloader). Will need test for the logo appearing as don't want damage it anymore.

 

[juno_first]

which roku4k .. I have not had any problems with an SS+
youtube music is only 128kb/s - webm, so not exactly and auditory experience anyway ?

Just got a WiFi extender & put it 6 inches away from the Roku4k & it behaves the same, but at least it passes the network test with 45mbits now.
The older RokuHD is fine with YouTube Music.

 

[juno_first]

Perhaps the 3D OLED's need a higher light level to push through the polarised layer?
Perhaps part of the reason for ditching 3D was a lower light level is needed & to reduce damage to pixels?
A shame the logo detector can't be applied to the 2016 range.
I'm casting app content now due to them causing damage.

 

[juno_first]

I tried 2x FALD Panasonic dx902 before going OLED & both had problems with HDR gaming due to max brightness & seeing the LED squares follow any light source. Maybe they've improved now?
DSE also shows up more with a lighter LCD panel.

 

[juno_first]

Simply put, LCD if in a bright room or OLED for a darker room & better quality. It's a headache running an OLED as a main TV though... always trying prevent static images.
How about a regular LCD but in front of the backlight another LCD, perhaps just B&W with each pixel able to vary its transparency, call it the light filter LCD. Heck, maybe have 2 of these filter LCD's to get that pure black but allow 4000nits. To remove FALD glow around highlights set the pixels closest to the highlight to be darker. With some clever software wizardry it would work.

 

[juno_first]

I've done a lot of HDR gaming on my E6 & no game has damaged the TV.

 

[juno_first]

For how long do you play

I can play HDR games up to 6 hours a time and quite often I'll pause the game and go have lunch for 30 minutes and come back

When playing a HDR game for a few hours I'll try not leave it on a static scene for too long. Xbox is set to auto dim after no input after a minute or two as well.